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Wombs for Rent in India
« on: January 28, 2017, 12:25:02 am »
The world is such a strange place ... I do not mean any offense to women when I say that I feel fortunate not to have been born a woman.  I guess this means I have sympathy and empathy ...

I hate economics.  Really.  I am so lucky to be so useless!  Thank god I don't have a womb to rent!!!

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Re: Wombs for Rent in India
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 02:30:33 pm »
Maybe it is  really all  too deep to ever become comprehensible to us.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 03:15:18 pm »
It may sound like we are copping out or giving up, but I agree with you here.  It, whatever it may be, is too deep to be comprehended.   This is the biggest reason I have tended to focus on the mechanical algorithms of calculus-based mathematics lately.   Even when I can barely follow the text, I do stand a chance of eventually making sense of it.  It is in the realm of the possible. 

As for making sense of general reality, considering the world as representation (Maya) and trying to comprehend what is behind it, well, it is fascinating to read Schopenhauer because he goes so deep.  I am confident that he probably took it as far as is possible.  There is no "one-upping" Schopenhauer. 

Whatever it is that is happening en masse, I am not spared; and so, I too am showing signs ... of losing the ability to concentrate or focus.   I wish I could offer a solution.  And yet, you seem to have hit on something that could at least relieve us of the frustration of not understanding life at all.

We can just resign ourselves to not being equipped to comprehend the nature of reality, the nature of our lives.

We can, in effect, out-Kant Kant in our NEGATIVITY.

Our contribution will be, like Kant's, a negative contribution.

We may be able to experience the Will directly, as Schopenhauer pointed out, but we simply can't comprehend our situation as a whole.   It is just too deep.  The world is in our heads, but our head is in the world.  The fact that we try to and want to make sense of it actually may help us to face the brute fact of our lives, that we exist, and that our existence need not make sense or have any particular purpose.

I think this is what makes alcohol and drugs so appealing to so many deep thinkers.   This is why we tend to stupefy ourselves ... We want to become like vegetable life, to short-circuit the will to know.

At least Schopenhauer wrote in terms that we recognize in our own being.   As beings, we are pure will.  We want to remain safe from harm, to avoid pain, to stay warm and dry.   As far as being thinking or knowing beings, that aspect is a parasitical accident.  So, if we really identify our essence with this Life of the Mind, we are identifying precisely with that which not our true essence at all.   No wonder we experience so much inner disharmony.

I am resigned to just taking notes on what we actually experience.  This is not imaginary stuff we are talking about.  In fact, when I have been very close to acting upon the suicidal impulse, I could clearly identify two opposing ideas, one coming from the head (intellect), the other from the heart (the will-to-live).   You see what force won out, right?

The heart would whimper and become terrified of the parasitical brain that had figured out the final solution.

Let us continue to explore these problems, but I want to make clear I am in total agreement with you, Holden, when it comes to the fact that we may simply not be wired to comprehend.  At least we try.   We have come up against the walls of the metaphysical prison.

You see, it is not just the world's social order that imprisons us through economics.  Life itself is kind of a prison.   We are feeling the walls of the metaphysical cage we are in.   Let's face this nightmare.   Let us stare into the abyss!
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 09:51:25 pm »
I think we may be able to accept that there is no intellectual salvation; that is, there is no rational solution to Schopenhauer's Riddle of Existence.

Part of the arrogance of humanism is the belief that all problems are soluble. 

There is no solution to the riddle of existence.  Life is simply a brute fact.  Seeking salvation may make matters worse.  Maybe it is better to acclimate ourselves to the real situation and find some small inner delight in Bildung - the inner development of the individual, a process of fulfillment through education and knowledge, an amalgam of wisdom and self-realization.


Quote from: in the summer of 2014, I wrote ...
It's funny, I seem to write out of having a problem and wanting to be alright with the fact that there is no solution.  Isn't part of the arrogance of humanism that our species seems to think that all problems are soluble?  Maybe what I am looking for is a certain degree of "mental and emotional power" to help me get through this life, knowing that countless others have endured it.

That's what I mean when I say I don't mind being miserable.  I don't want to think I have to snap out of it ... but to be able to deal with it without projecting it onto imaginary enemies.

Amazingly, becoming comfortable in misery relieves the misery slightly.

An analogy might be a dark cave, not Plato's cave ... a different one.  Suppose one were to panic in the dark. This could be horrifying.  The imagination could have one running into the walls, breaking one's bones or poking an eyeball out, which would make the situation considerably worse.   It would be better to crawl like an infant and adjust to being blind as calmly as possible.

That's what I am trying to do.  I want to face the possibility that life is a horrific disaster and take a deep breath, and forge ahead ... cautiously.

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2017, 10:35:54 am »
The capitalist model is built on the idea of endless striving, of greed and egoistic drive. The scale of the success of this model is testament to how well it fits our innate disposition. We waste no time supporting companies that enslave and exploit their workers, so long as our desires for the latest trinkets are met. This underlying chaos amongst people, and the lack of any common good, is proof that the will is essentially fighting against itself, a tragedy at the level of representation turned absurdly comic at the level of the Will.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 10:45:05 am »
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We waste no time supporting companies that enslave and exploit their workers, so long as our desires for the latest trinkets are met.

Very true.  The Will run amock.  Inside we're ugly.

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Megalithic corporations establish the consumer imperative in many, many people through invasive advertising techniques.

Those who consume become part of an “in group.” Anyone not satisfying themselves by accumulating material goods and pleasures, anyone not enjoying the mass-produced culture, becomes an outsider. The consuming imperative, then, creates conformity: everyone, for instance, must buy CD players and VCRs or risk being ridiculed.

Although CD Players and VCRs have been displaced by smart phones and livestream video, there is "the consuming imperative".  I would not be motivated by the fear of being ridiculed.  Neither you or I succumb to the imperative to own an automobile, even though owning an automobile has become a "requirement" for a fully functioning "normal" adult.   It's to the point where refusing to succumb to this demand is nearly equivalent to being physically handicapped or diabled.

By the way, my desire to possess an ereader has more to do with encouraging myself to read more literature and not having to depend on actual libraries.   I have resisted the impulse as my priority was to have access to hard-copy texts which I don't believe will ever be well suited for ereaders.

What you say, though, is sadly true.  Even though I have been informed about the unhappiness of many Amazon employees, I continue to order products from their website as I do not own an automobile and am pretty much stranded.

It is hard to resist.
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Are not machines that can only make money


Remember the words of Henry Fool:
A job?  Quit your job, Simon.  You need leisure ... time to study, time to think and reflect ...

You can't tie a fence around a man's soul.

See Henry Fool (this ZooTube version is running fast, but the scene is at 23:45):

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Anyway, I suppose this is another case of "nothing that is so, is so".

I could never afford car payments or car repairs or even cosmetic dental work; but I sure do have a great amount of leisure.  What is true wealth?

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Re: Wombs for Rent in India
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 11:49:26 pm »
job?  Quit your job, Simon.  You need leisure ... time to study, time to think and reflect ...

That's very true Herr Hentrich,before I met you I used to be afraid of a lot of things,you helped me to understand that most of them are superfluous.
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Modern Workplace:Worse than Sodom and Gomorrah
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 10:23:38 pm »
I'd like to start this post by saying that please free to think of me,if you are so inclined,  as a misogynist,ablelist,sexist,regressive,supremacist,culture appropriating man,that no woman would ever want a guy like me,that I am whiny man-child whose man-feelings are hurt ,who is frightened of women & pees his pants if he comes 5 feet of a real woman,that I am probably a maniac,that I live in my parents' basement surviving on a diet on nothing but Cheetos & Mountain Dew,that I am an idiot who has no education & has no idea what he is talking about & that I obviously don't care about the welfare of women.


Now,lets get to something productive:Workplace Romance.


What I see in the workplace is enough to make me vomit all over the place. Naked display of sexuality. 24*7 soap opera with a lot of sex and nudity thrown in. Both men & women flirting with each other.Single beast with two faces.
As I don't want to play this flithy game of theirs- I am ostracised. That's just fine with me.

Modern workplace is worse than  Sodom and Gomorrah.The reasons why the powers that be want more and more and more women in the workplace is not because they are the champions of women's rights -they don't care about it at all,but because they want to get the sexual energy flowing in the workplace. The workplace thrives on it.

Work and sex are so sides of the same coin.Work to have sex and have sex to work. God, its all so vicious. It all makes me sick,very,very sick.
One more thing -their marital vows mean nothing to these sex fiends-neither to men nor to women. All they care about is promotions and increments and unethical ,unscrupulous sexual gratification.
Well,they can all go to hell, as far as I am concerned.

 


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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 08:32:37 am »
Well done!   Hilarious stuff there.

Definitely "Underground Man" ...

The only reason for living is to contemplate the sublime absurdity of things.
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The only reason for living is to contemplate the sublime absurdity of things.

Well,Schopenhauer also decided not to be an actor but an onlooker and critic in the battle of life and when Wieland(a German writer), whom he met on one of his excursions, suggested doubts as to the wisdom of his choice, Schopenhauer replied, "Life is a ticklish business; I have resolved to spend it in reflecting upon it."

Why, that is a wonderful solution! To be lost in contemplation most of time.Sometimes my heart begins to palpitate because of the bad behaviour of others & I end up perspiring a lot. I don't know what sort of demon sent me to this wretched planet. The life expectancy here for a male is about 66 years so I still have a good few decades to go. But yes,I must admit, finding Pessimism has been a great relief. So,after all I was not wrong when I cursed the existence as a teenager without having read any of the great pessimists.

I cannot say that life does not make me afraid. To tell the trust,most of my waking hours are spent in extreme anguish.
Other mortals may find relief when they are sleeping but unfortunately not yours truly. For the last few days I have been having the most dreadful dreams. Well, I would put that in the dreams sections.

I hope this life is over soon & along with that this misery which fills my heart to the point of overflowing.
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