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Exploring Simone Weil
« on: July 09, 2024, 04:25:38 pm »
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Here lay the real problem, and one that only came home to Weil when, in an effort to live up to and to live out her ethical vision, she went to work with those she saw at the time as most clearly as of the class of those “who obey”: oppressed, menial, piece-working factory labourers. In this decision and project, she meant to place herself “on the side of the oppressed,” to “feel with them,” and so to understand and to act. Here she would live—and in living, demonstrate—the fundamental penetrative point of the ethical, of obligation, in (and into) the realm of force.

What happened, however, was that she found—in others and in herself—something that seemed to tear the realm of force and the ethical life irretrievably apart: she discovered that suffering that is affliction (malheur, literally “calamitous misfortune”). The suffering “seared the soul.”

It was affliction that turned her moral philosophy away from the conventional and that led her to speak of ethical life in religious terms; and it was affliction that made, or allowed, her to see that what made a human being sacred, what made them the kind of being whose suffering counted, was no ascriptive empirical fact about them, no matter how essential to their “personality,” but was, rather, the impersonal in them.

Affliction was suffering that robbed its bearer of all dignity, both in the eyes of others and in their own eyes. It left them “mutilated,” valueless, worthless. It involved the twinned and catastrophic impact of physical pain (which might be simply the fear of such pain), and social humiliation, social degradation. Affliction, she wrote in a letter to Father Perrin, “takes possession of the soul and marks it through and through with its own particular mark, the mark of slavery,” and it was what she found, in her co-workers and so in herself, as they laboured for Alsthom and Renault. “The affliction of others entered into my flesh and my soul… There I received forever the mark of slavery” (WG 66-67).

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Re: Exploring Simone Weil
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2024, 04:03:18 pm »
I will look into this pdf by Mohammad Maroof Shah (Rajbagh Colony, Nagbal, Ganderbal, Kashmir 191201, India).   ;)

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Beckett’s extremely influential Waiting for Godot has
been much heard and commented upon but there has
been paid only relatively little attention to another master
piece Waiting on God by his contemporary which
challenges and moves beyond the impasse in Beckettian
depressing or nihilistic work. Simone Weil, one of the
most significant names in the history of modern
mysticism and mystical philosophy, has dealt with the
unique problems that modern man faces vis-à-vis his
faith. Weil encounters similar problems that occupy
absurdist writers but her response and conclusions are
very different. In this paper it is proposed to compare and
contrast Beckett and Weil to show how transcendence as
it figures in Weil’s mysticism dissolves the problems
associated with nihilism in modern thought that plague
Beckett’s depressing work. Robert Cohen has read
Godot as a “dramatic companion-piece” to Simone Weil’s
Waiting for God, without, however, the postulation of
faith.

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Simone Weil died when she was 34.  I think she would have your love and respect. 


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Re: Exploring Simone Weil
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2025, 01:50:49 pm »
I know a little bit about her and about her gifted mathematician brother. Although I’m not sure if I’d’ve got along with her had I met her in person. I’m clinically shy. I have come to realise that I am incapable of being a “team-player”. I am a loner and really don’t mind being one. I’d rather wear the same clothes all the time and live on bread and water than talk to people ,especially in person.
 
I hope your accommodation situation has got resolved.I find her inclination towards Christianity  a little bit problematic. I cannot bring myself to have faith in any kind of a good god.

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There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide.-Camus

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Re: Exploring Simone Weil
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2025, 12:55:19 am »
My "accomidations" end tomorrow morning, Monday.   I will be stranded.  I will be placing notes and computer in storage and carrying blanket with a change of clothes.   Living on Cream of Wheat, for now.   I have some instant coffee.

Third World, USA.

I was also skeptical about the theological obsessions she had, but her life seemed to be some kind of living protest.

Do you think we might be "holy atheists" ?

Schopenhauer seemed to respect the life of the holy man, and I often feel I am such a holy man.  I also detest religion and constantly blaspheme, as in "Fukc God and the horse He rode in on."
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Arthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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