{∅, {∅}, {∅, {∅}}} : Rage Against the Meat Grinder

When I asked the "day laborers" why they subjected themselves to waiting all morning for the opportunity to jump into the trucks of local contractors, they would tell me, "No money, no Love."

- Herr Hauser

Now, here, I would like to request you to please be so kind as to answer a few of my questions:

1.In the above mentioned statement of yours,what is meant by "Love"? Does it mean wives/girlfriends or harlots? Or maybe both?
2.When the labourers told you " No money, no Love" did they mean that their wives/girlfriends would leave them if they had no money and the harlots would not spend time with them?
3.When the labourer said "No money,no Love",did they imply that, were it not for the lust which drives them,like flies are attracted to fire, to the women, they would not be required to,well,labour?
4.If the answer to the third question is yes, did they mean that, without lust, they would have to work less,or did they mean that they would not have to labour at all?

Your statement reminded me of the following:

I have known more men destroyed by the desire to have wife and child and to keep them in comfort than I have seen destroyed by drink.

-William Butler Yeats

Holden,
  Can you imagine being so possessive as to want to "keep a woman/man" in your life? Or to think that you could, and that any sense of "freedom" can be attained by having to conform to careerism, debt, mowing the lawn, idle, boring "dinner dates" with other couples, raising a child (future sufferer)? We all know that this is production for the body-mind farm that Raul often hammers home.
  Hey, I'm all for long-term partnership. But I would NEVER subject someone to having to be there at my beck and call, to submit to my paltry little animal needs, to try and scrape by living a "normal life." Not for me, I'm no sadist. People should be free to walk when they see fit - no money or materialism involved.
 The women I've been involved with, I don't know, maybe they can't handle the fact that I grant them total autonomy to do as they please. I have no doubt that many men feel that they need the same.
 Sorry, I don't check up on you every hour on the hour. And I care less about "what you do" than how you feel. No boundaries, carry on.
  The need to be POSSESSED; the need to be SAVED...what the hell is wrong with us???

Can you imagine being so possessive as to want to "keep a woman/man" in your life?

-Mr.Silenus

Well, I must confess I have ,I suppose, rather limited real life romantic experience with women.Now that I think of it, I gave so much freedom to my "girlfriends" that they did not even realise that they were supposed to be"my girlfriends" 
Now, that your question has brought back some old memories,let me relate them to you,if I may. The first woman, who came closest to being my "girlfriend" was in the college and my extent of interaction with her was to once gift her a biography of Steve Jobs ,for she was a lot into  business and all.

To be truthful,she did reciprocate and after a few days gave a book called "Freud- A guide for the Confused", I don't know what to make of it,did she think I was a lot into sex and all
And that is it.No hand holding, no pecks. That was it,really, if you can believe it.This was in 2009.


 

Or to think that you could, and that any sense of "freedom" can be attained by having to conform to careerism, debt, mowing the lawn, idle, boring "dinner dates" with other couples, raising a child (future sufferer)? We all know that this is production for the body-mind farm that Raul often hammers home.

-Mr.Silenus

My second romance took place in 2013-14, right before I had the good fortune to meet Herr Hauser. I was working for a giant mining corporation then, and the two of us ( the woman and I),were put in the same work related committee.
From the get go, she told me that she had a fiance.Apparently, that was not a  problem, when it came to taking gifts from me - dark chocolate, a wall clock and a few other things. Again, no hand holding or even a kiss.
She just called me up to play golf( golf, of all things    ) once with her.And she talked for long periods of time over the telephone with me, all non-sense,nothing sexually explicit but I found it exciting anyway.

And then she got married and I changed the company.
That is pretty much the long and short of my love life.

 

The need to be POSSESSED; the need to be SAVED...what the hell is wrong with us???

-Mr.Silenus
I think,back in 2009, the day I got the job through college campus placement ,I was quite over confident,right after that I gave the book as a gift and things might have got quite serious ,if not for my extreme introversion.Blessed introversion. As regards these two women, I would say I was possessive,in that,at that point of time, I would have liked them to give all their attention to me.

You see, I think, I am a rather sentimental man, and I am terribly afraid of being in any kind of relationship with any woman because then I might end up acting as possessive boyfriend again. In Hindi, there is an idiom called" If there is no bamboo, there will be no flute". So, if there is no woman, there is no complicated emotional calculus.At any rate, now its different for me, having encountered Schopenhauer,Cioran and Herr Hauser, my way of perceiving the world has dramatically changed . There are a few things I am trying to do, but its all philosophical and not romantic at all. So, the 2009 Holden and 2014 Holden are dead and buried.

I am just speaking for myself and maybe for the others long term relationships might work out, but I have what is called a one-track mind and I am trying to do something philosophical. I will share it with you, if its okay with you, if and when I manage to come up with something substantial.

Take care and do keep writing.

Here is the download link to a 2006 article about the systematic exploitation of the vulnerable:
The Employer Preference for the Subservient Worker and the Making of the Brown Collar Workplace

From the wombs of women come desperate and vulnerable human life that is naturally fed into the Meat Grinder.   Is it not possible to starve the Meat Grinder by ceasing to feed it chattle from these wombs?

There is no place for the man who is constitutionally not subservient.

I am considering Holden's theories about natural death by starvation, and I think that if one is lacking in this gene of subservience and one is too old to survive many years as a Bum (bhikkhu = mendicant), then this would simply be a natural consequence of one's temperament not being fit for such an existence, without shame, and maybe even with some pride and dignity --- to starve to death for lack of subservient tendencies, to defy the apparent trap we are born into.

Be not afraid of Death.  Not all are fit to be slaves.

Would interest in mathematics, the art of programming, the craft of computing, etc., not be evidence of a Will-to-Live ?

Yes, the deal with the Devil - the Will to Live - is that as long as "I" (a phantasmagoric narrative invented by parts of organic life to sustain Life-as-Organism-in-Environs) eat, shiit, and stay safe (not too wet, not too cold, not too hungry, not too hot, not too dry, not too dead), I might deepen and/or develop my understanding of ancient secret crafts handed down by the Monks of Mathematics, Computing ...

... but during this quest which is all in vain in the end, I wish to take a moment to reflect upon the Cosmic Proportions of the Ridiculous Situation we have got ourselves in ... in having been born.

 ... ouch ... by the way.

ET says "Owwwwwch ..."

When I catch myself sleeping, I wish death felt like that.  To sleep is to go home, wherever that may be.

Under the spell of Senor Raul's "The Misanthrope Society," I did a search for misanthropic websites, and became interested in one who kept a blog in 1997 calling herself The Misanthropic Biitch.

You can find general descriptions about her controversial views on various Wikis, but I discovered an original link to what once was the IP address on this page: The Weird One, and stuff he likes (nehrlich DOT com /weirdone.html)

Be careful when you click on the link for The Misanthropic Biitch, for you may be driven to a frenzy.  I purposely did not link directly from our board.  I sure hope the links to this message board don't end up gobbled up by p-o-r-n.   Such things have happened before to boards I've created.    We will have to think of a back-up plan in case this board gets sucked into the pornovoid.

Note:  TMB was evicted from shutdown DOT com (her original web host) by the administrator after a personal disagreement regarding the 9/11 attacks. The most productive period for the blog was from its inception until 2001, but updates noticeably declined in later years. The final post was made in March 2005, with the blog going offline by mid-2007. The domain was later sold.

____________________  TMB ________________________
from reddit: The Misanthropic Biitch on having children - a repost

"Who will take care of you when you get old?"

Given recent trends, I have to assume my caretakers will consist of a burly ex-convict and a welfare-to-work gomeril, both of whom have sticky fingers.

Children no longer want the responsibility of caring for their senile, incontinent, curmudgeonly, diabetic, heart attack-suffering, stroke-recovering elderly parents. The responsibility has been passed on to slightly retarded certified nursing assistants.

"Nothing can make one a misogynist faster than being born a woman." -- The Misanthropic Biitch

Cult of the Child

The Wayback Machine:   This will be a tricky maneuver from here since the NetNanny on this board is fuucking up the word b-i-t-c-h in the URL address at archive DOT org:

https : // web DOT archive DOT org/web/19981207011706/http : //bi_ch.shutdown DOT com/

You will have to cut and paste into URL address bar of browser, be sure to
remove white spaces from https : // ,
replace " DOT " with '.',
and replace the underscore character, '_', with the character 't'.

You will take a trip back to December 1998 snapshot.  The local links were captured for posterity, but the external links appear to have been sent into the great void ... except for Chicks Suuck (on the Wayback Machine, also December 1998), The Old Folks Home, The Church of Euthanasia (I believe many of the links on that site were captured by the wayback machine ... just give them time to load [LOADING ...] since they are probably deep in the archive and not frequently ACCESSED.

There you can explore a woman evicted from shutdown DOT com for her politically incorrect stance.  She was no diaper sniffer!  She was a fan of http://www.vhemt.org/ (The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement), which is still alive and kicking ... 

If you go to her main page, then follow link "i rule" another page with "links" will appear.  That's where I tested and found the ones above which were preserved in the archive.  It's kind of interesting to see what was "banned" ... and to see The Wayback Machine in action right here, right now.   I will try to find some misanthropic sites that are not so offensive to the masses.  I figured the readers of this board might be thick-skinned enough to explore that which more politically correct refined/sophisticated/phony elites would dismiss as low culture.

forbidden [free] flowers

the question:  How to revolt against prohibitively expensive marijuana?

possible solutions?

https://www.medicaljane.com/category/cannabis-classroom/growing-advice/#cannabis-growing-methods

good luck with that
the natives on Turtle Island get harassed by heavily armed FBI agents just for having the nerve to grow tobacco.   What the world calls the USA was originally a Tobacco Colony ... the "resources" have been claimed by the uber-rich industrialists who are "part machine" ...

another possible solution: