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Letters of Interest
« on: September 21, 2019, 01:44:35 pm »
This will take too long ...

I would hate to pull stuff out of context.  It's quite a letter!  Very lucid.   

Artaud was tired of Kafka ... reminiscent of the Schopenhauer Against Hegel rants [comments from the peanut gallery -- ah, but what a peanut gallery it is!   Let's hear more from the peanut gallery, and more from the insane asylums and prisons as well, while we're at it.]   ;)

Seek out the weirdest literature if you seek any literature at all.

While the letter begins on page 113, I want to jump to page 117, where he lambasts 5 specific BOOKS.   And yet, I feel the full impact can only be felt when you consider this is in a very long Post Scriptum; that is, what he writes after he signs the letter is longer than the initial letter.   Hmmmmm ....

How shall I proceed when my haywire brain is pulling me in several directions at once?  Which wolves do I feed?   Do I wish to study Concepts in C++ and practice generic programming to explore algebraic structures and fields/rings, or do I wish to consider the things society (and Science and Mathematics) keeps hidden?

Can't I do both? 

We shall see ... as Holden writes (and Alfred Korzybski [author of SCIENCE & SANITY] once wrote).    I wonder how Korzybski and Artaud would perceive one another.   They seem to be extreme opposites, no?    Korzybski was part of the very "scientific elite community" which would rule the world if they could.  I guess they thought they had it all figured out, the epitome of man'splainin' ... Artaud was opposed to that very elite intellectual class which presumes to know best ...

... not too dissimilar from those who "dictate" the technical details of software language constructs?   I suppose I am guilty of paying enormous respect to such "eggheads."   I am intrigued with how I might be able to use their "invisible yet alphanumeric-based tools" to deepen my understanding of algebraic structures and learn how to use concepts to enforce requirements on numeric types, such as my Fraction class, complex numbers, and the like.

In the meantime, I would like to share this letter with the readers of this board, but I can't bring myself to get into the task ... I may not be able to deliver on the promise.  It was just an idea, another idea floating around on the never ending queue of things I might like to do were I to get enough gumption to do so.

Sorry, today, I am having inner conflicts.  Now I know what Holden means when he says "Mathematics is a jealous mistress."   Since my study of programming is so passionately motivated by my desire to apply it to studying algebraic structures, this would represent a crucial breakthrough in my "own little world, the one I live in."   

At least I have communicated my intentions, and if you have hard copies, I will not bother to type it.

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Letter Against the Kabbala [sic]

  nothing for this at https://books.google.com/books/about/Artaud_Anthology.html?id=5RdQ-2uiTFIC

typed transcriptions from Letter Against the Kabbala:

(random excerpts)
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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2019, 07:32:32 am »
If you don't mind, I'll post a link here for a new book that can be downloaded for free for kindle users over the next couple of days:

Morsels for the Depressed, Depraved, Pessimistic, and otherwise declining
by Saul van der Walt

"Aphorisms, Fragments, and Flash fiction, also some poetry, for all who are lost and not particularly looking to be found."

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZKXSHLM/ref=pe_385040_117923520_TE_M1DP

Now it's time to give it a look while here "on the clock" at work. Hope everyone is well enough.

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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 10:20:06 am »
Just what the doctor ordered!   Thanks Silenus.   I may need that book today.  I'm just trying not to become overwhelmed.   I have reached a mental block and must do some serious learning.  Beneath the surface, there is panic and anxiety.  Maybe it is best to just get used to "being lost" ... or maybe it is helpful to resist becoming too enthusiastic about anything.

There seems to be no getting around the fact that "being a living organism"  is no party.

Life is certainly no Van Halen concert, that's for sure.

May we each find a place to hide, to gather our thoughts, to reflect.   

This Saul van der Walt may be a kindred spirit, a like-minded individual:

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One is not obliged to do anything, and whoever says otherwise is a slave (though, we're all slaves to something or other).

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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2019, 08:31:09 pm »
Based off of what I've read so far, I think he is open to understanding biological complexity as being slavery. And of course call it Will, Brahma etc as you see fit, just so long as you recognize the tumbling chaotic DRIVE towards... where exactly? "Eating" more energy?

Am I remembering correctly that you once changed the forum name to "fireside chats?" I kind of enjoyed picturing voices echoing a pact of refusal, each alone knowing very well that it (physical existence in it's entirety) may never end.


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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2019, 11:02:36 pm »
Some of my sentiments have been confirmed by this author, sentiments which are rarely discussed, such as the idea that it is more sensible and graceful to wait until your parents and others have either passed away or given up on you altogether before doing yourself in.

Perhaps many do themselves in on a subconscious level, but some of us may have a natural grace and polite gentleness about us, so we would wish to spare our kin (small tiny monkey-sphere) and locals the drama and anguish, grief, heartache, etc.

He also gives some stern criticisms which may bruise the ego, such as something to the effect to "stop whining" about those who do such and such (professional programmers [I may insensitively refer to them as "code-monkeys"] or industrial/military/government scientists, doctors etc. [whom I am not altogether sure I respect or trust]), and just go about your own business of learning what you wish to learn on your own terms.   I may have misread it as I tend to read such material when I am in that zone between dropping dead with tiredness or I wish to detach quickly from the abstract state-of-mind I call "codemode" (a trance-like state where "the Holy-but-Beyond-Good&Evil Ghost" [in the Machine] possesses the Subject (me  :P) with a yearning to understand, even at one chunk at a time).   Much seriousness is said in jest I suppose.   ;)

As an analogy, I will chew these concepts as a man with few teeth chews meat.  I must tuck most of it up into the pocket of the cheek like sister squirrel does.  I cannot expect rapid retention nor mystical or magical Voices of "God" or "Gods".   

I like my understanding to grow through its own confusions and struggle to stay focused so as to honestly follow or digest/grasp.

I prefer to grasp at least the fundamentals and foundational concepts honestly than to delude myself into an ego-gratifying and deluded self-perception as "someone aspiring to be a master/expert".

There is less pressure in this world of professionals and of charlatans posturing for "credentials" to simply be a tinkering buffoon, Dostoyevski's Prince Myshkin, the Idiot who does not hold grudges against those who have wronged or abused him.

To simply learn as someone who does not expect to be taken seriously by either professionals nor academics.

I may have picked something up from this Saul van character/writer, that is, some of the sentence fragments above might be called "technical aphorisms."
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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 02:20:41 am »
published by Urbanomic, 2008. Collapse IV features a series of investigations by philosophers, writers and artists into Concept Horror. Contributors address the existential, aesthetic, theological and political dimensions of horror, interrogate its peculiar affinity with philosophical thought, and uncover the horrors that may lie in wait for those who pursue rational thought beyond the bounds of the reasonable. Contributors to this issue include Thomas Ligotti, China Miéville, Reza Negarestani, Quentin Meillassoux, Jake and Dinos Chapman, et al.

Collapse IV

I am hoping the above is what I think it is.   I will check to verify.

Also of interest:  From Faëry to Madness: The Facts in the Case of Howard Phillips Lovecraft.

 Abstract

H.P. Lovecraft’s “Cthulhu Mythos” is often hailed as the scientific, post-enlightenment answer to the traditional metaphysical tales of horror. Yet such a view is, as I argue, one-sided since it ignores both the actual reception and further development of Lovecraft’s “Mythos” as well as its inherent contradictions. As a consequence, the highly heterogeneous body of Lovecraftian texts is too often put into the Procrustean bed of his ideological framework instead of being appreciated as literature with a dynamic aesthetic dimension.
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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2019, 01:14:26 am »
From  Morsels for the Depressed, Depraved, Pessimistic, and otherwise declining

Quote from: Saul van der Walt
But that's how it goes, everybody is the center of their own universe, and we're alone together in a big indifferent world just for a little before it's over, and eventually no one even knows that it happened ...

Yes, we are each alone, and no one gives a damn what any one of us might be "interested in."

The world is like, "You like math?  Well fuuck math, and fuuck you."

Or, as someone close to me who was tired of hearing "Schopenhauer wrote such and such ..." would say, "Fuuck Schopenhauer!"

Yes, I know world, and fuuck me as well.  I know.  I get it.
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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2019, 10:56:56 pm »
1.  Escape from the Zombie Food Court | Joe Bageant (RIP: 1946 – 2011)

2.  The Insane Manifesto Of Austin Texas Crash Pilot Joseph Andrew Stack

[ rediscovered while going through H-135 (2010) ]
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While reading through H-138 (Jail --> small cursive scribble on scrap paper), I rediscovered :

The Areas of My Expertise: An Almanac of Complete World Knowledge Compiled with Instructive Annotation and Arranged in Useful Order by John Hodgman

I will type it up for my fellow-scholars/Potential-Bohemian-Hobo-Philosopher-Kings:


"Gradually training yourself over many years in the art of the graft, slowly gaining the trust of the criminal community, ... [? ?] gradually becoming your enemy so that you may finally crush him or her with one final, ultimate swindle is called 'Chuckling the kingboy' and is considered to be the greatest con of all."
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Note:  from my experience of the King-Baby syndrome, in myself maybe at age 15 or so, in other men throughout their lives if they are bulky and weighty enough to have their way all the time.
Therefore, I would (personally) interpret the kingboy as such a one with the King-Baby Syndrome.
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from a film I saw in the theater with my paternal grandparents when I was a squirt:



(optional):  a little horror-rap weirdo flashback:

WARNING:  Some people may never develop the necessary sense of humor to "get" or "grok" the satire, bringing attention to a horrific epidemic of shootings, people running amok, with ... dark satire.  They will mistaken the art as promoting the behaviors of the "characters" inside the song.  So, it was silly and goofy and sophomoric, but - with some beer in me, those songs were fun for me while drowning myself in alcoholic oblivion.  Even in the suffering, there were light moments of mirth, even if of a "retarded" unsophisticated grade.   Getting beyond my own hangups, I recognize the ART, the madman creative genius.





and even an attempt at classic Silent-Film [Keystone Cop] Style Satire (also consider last scenes of Island of Dr M, God ... #1, God #2, God #3, God #4, ...), my humor must have been warped when obliterated on booze; still, there is definite talent which helped me through many tough years.





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The Pleasures of a Nonconformist (Lin Yutang)
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2019, 10:11:25 pm »
Lin Yutang

The Pleasures of a Nonconformist

see notes in Resistance in a Consumerist Society

Lin chooses the scamp as the ideal: The scamp is a literary symbol of a man who refuses to submit to the external pressures of society.
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The Coming Insurrection
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2019, 06:05:57 pm »
From The Coming Insurrection:

"Becoming self-sufficient is a euphemism for finding a boss."

"To have a job is an honor, yet working is a sign of servility."

"Excuse us if we don't give a fuuck."

"We aren't cynical, we are just unwilling to be deceived."

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Death by Starvation by Hegesias of Kyrene
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2019, 12:56:26 pm »
From Death by Starvation by Hegesias of Kyrene:

Summary:

The book starts out with a man who decides that he is going to starve himself to death. All his friends come and beg him not to, saying everything they can to try to talk him out of it. The man responds by arguing that happiness is impossible and that it is much better to die than to live. He then proceeds to give a lengthy dissertation on the miseries and torments of life. He enumerates all the various reasons why each person should commit suicide and refutes all his friends’ objections against it.

Background

Hegesias’s book has not survived to the present day, which means it is extremely doubtful that anyone will ever read it again. Everything we know about it comes from what Cicero says about it in his “On Contempt of Death,” the first dialogue in his Tusculan Disputations.

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Black Skin, White Masks
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2019, 12:18:38 am »
Frantz Fanon    Black Skin, White Masks c.1967
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Trifles of a Massacre
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2019, 11:11:51 am »
I know I am posting many down and dirty links lately.  I am doing so for posterity.  What Holden paraphrased from Heidegger:

Quote from: Holden
There is one thing Heidegger says which I find is of great value, now I am paraphrasing here, he says that, true authenticity could be arrived at when one acknowledges the fact that one could be gone at any moment.

THIS was the MAIN impetus which gave me the courage to start uploading the salvaged notes from my own personal "Ignatius Reilly copy books."   I could die any moment, and while I would prefer working on exercises from Stroustrup's C++ text, I do think that someone will find my notes helpful in sorting out their own inner life.  Writing about what really troubles us does seem to decrease the anxiety.

The problem with literature and authenticity is that, when one's "spirit" is a combination of comic and angry, there are bound to be some literary heads rolling.   Believe it or not, I have many reservations when writing.  I hold back a great deal of anger.   I restrain myself.  I very much CENSOR my own thoughts.   I am afraid of being made out to be someone easily dismissed as "off his rocker."

What I just found on the Internet (original French edition 1937) :
Louis-Ferdinand CÉLINE
TRIFLES FOR A MASSACRE


AN UNPUBLISHED ENGLISH FIRST EDITION
by Translator anonymous
AAARGH PUBLISHING HOUSE INTERNET

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The  “massacre,”  in  the  thinking  of  the  author,  which  he  foresaw  in  1937,  is  evidently  that which transpired upon the outbreak of the Second World War.

Contrary to rumor, the pamphlets are not forbidden by law, regulation or tribunal. They have not been reissued by reputable publishing houses because the author, having returned to France,  wanted  to  retain  the  authority  on  the  reissue  of  the  books  which  he  had  written,  in  order  to  gain  his  subsistence.

 This  measure  of  opportunity  is  no  longer  a  consideration,  following  the  passing  away  of  the  author  in  1961.  No  one  has  the  right  to  impede  the  legitimate curiosity of subsequent generations concerning who was the incandescent nexus of French literature of the Mid-Twentieth Century. After his demise in 1961, his widow, Lucette Almanzor, a dancer, banned any reprinting of the book and sued in courts those who tried. She still does. We believe the motivation of the widow  to  be  private  and  do  not  accept  to  have  such  a  masterpiece  removed  from  the  knowledge  of  our  time.  Readers,  and  citizen  at  large,  have  the  choice  to  read  and  to  know.  Nobody can take this right away from them, from us. (aaargh)
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The Machine in Our Heads
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2019, 11:18:56 am »
The Machine in Our Heads by Glenn Parton, sourced from primitivism DOT com at The Anarchist Library.

That worked for only about ten minutes, and then I was unable to even get to theanarchistlibrary DOT org!

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Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny that is to say, the development of the individual is an abbreviated repetition of the development of the species. In childhood, a modern person travels an enormous distance between stone-age primitive creature and responsible contemporary citizen. When confronted with the awesome power of civilization whose first representatives are parents, teachers, priests (and, later on, police officers, legislators and bosses) the child faces, psychologically, the same situation as its tribal ancestors, namely, conform to the dictates of civilization or die. The helplessness of childhood makes the threat of bodily harm or loss of love, which is used by the parents and others to enforce civilized morality and civilized education, a traumatic experience. The developing little person becomes afraid to express its own tribal nature. There is much fear that lies at the bottom of becoming a civilized adult.



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The False Self

We have internalized our masters, which is a well-known psychological response to trauma. When faced with overwhelming terror, the human mind splits, with part of itself modeling itself after the oppressor. This is an act of appeasement: “Look,” the mind says in effect, “I am like you, so do not harm me.” As a result of the civilizing process, together with this psychological defense mechanism known as “identification with the aggressor”, we now hear the alien voices of the various representatives of civilization in our heads. Because of these alien ego-identifications we no longer hear our own tribal/primal voice. In order for deep thinking to commence again in the human mind, it is necessary to break down these internal authorities, overcome the resistances, that prevent tribal ideas from coming to consciousness. The modern problem is not simply that we do not listen to primal ideas, but rather that primal ideas are unable to come to consciousness at all, because of the internal counterforces, or ego-alien identifications, that contradict and overpower them.

I found this applies well to megalomaniacal paranoid Hitler when one considers his ancestors were crucified by Roman soldiers during the invasions and conquering of the indigenous peoples north of the expanding Roman Empire.  The meshing of Hebrew aleph-bet culture into one filtered [addition of vowels to reify] through the intellectual slave class (assimilated [by Rome] Greek Teachers) may explain what would later surface as "German philosophy" - which showed appreciation for the Greek culture, perhaps the Mother Culture which assimilated the "tribes north of the Roman Empire (the Father Oppressor Culture?)".  Rome labelled the tribal peoples north of their empire "Germani" -  That's a name created by the Romans, who considered their enslaved bounty "barbarians" (similar to Spain and Italy referring to nearly 500 Nations of Indigenous Peoples of Turtle Island occupied by the good not-very-old USA with the blanket term "Indians" - also, with the derogatory "savages" label.   In 2019, the gorts the world over have no choice but to use such terms as Red Indian to distinguish between people actually from India.

Franks?  Vandals? ... etc...   no, Roman Empire calls all the tribes Germani.

Sioux?   Cherekee?  Mohawk?  Blackfoot?   no, Britain/Spain calls all the nations Indian/Indios.

Actually in Dios must simply mean people in God or of God.  I'm no Schopenhauer.
Regardless of the Labels-used-by-Expanding-Empires, do you see the parallel?

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OK, so Hitler (who could have been any number of people with that particular psychological profile ... the people were waiting for this?  No --- he may have been "manufactured" in some crazy LSD/crystal-meth experiment gone haywire) is taking on the characteristics of the Romans who destroyed his ancestors.  It is clear to me.   Thankfully, the readers here are not police officers, and they take my carefully chosen words in context.  God knows what is written down when you even bring up AH; very taboo ... even if taken as a case study to understand why he made so much of sexual fears of genetic annihilation and how the traits of the Nordics will fade into brown, as the old song Karma goes.  Some people have been demonized more than others when history is preserved by The People of the Book.

One might also read Celine this way.  He was very much obsessed, at least in Rigadoon with all Christian-from-Judaism influences as a conspiracy to wipe out genetically recessive traits.  While he was marketed as dark satire, it really is quite an honest portrayal of the workings of his own brain (Celine).  You know, the upper management types never have time for any such literature. 

It would be great to reach some stage of our evolution where we do not take our particular genetic history too personal, but this stuff can't be talked through with therapy.   Trauma is woven into our genetic history, as we all can easily imagine.  After all, it's the stuff our nightmares are made of.

 I am not obsessed.  The world is obsessed with a man who could be any homeless guy ready to commit suicide.  It is easy to imagine wealthy architects of Fate planting seeds.  Or maybe it was chaotic.  Offerring militaristic, State-financed, force to a frustrated artist/architect who had been humiliated, dragged through the mud to near starvation after fighting as a soldier during horrible "modern war" - of which we are in stage 4 of presently: 1, 2, Cold War, War on Terror.

The civilizing process has imbedded in my head that such a man would resent me as "too cerebral," a weakling as he was fond of calling intellectuals with no muscle or military training.   Very toxic masculinity there!   Well, consider the Roman culture.  It impressed Hitler.  He was not drawn to the intellectual Greek part, the more refined part.  He was into war.  My interest is purely psychological to better understand certain "inferioroty complexes" that may be caused by trauma a people experiences after generational opposition to their Nature.

Perhaps this was a poor choice as an example of taking on the traits of the oppressor, with Germanic tribes being the oppressed, Roman Empire the oppressor ... spreading with its tangle of knots, The Roman Catholic Church, then divided into what is named "Europe."   It sucks to think of all this.  We must repress an awful lot just to get through our nights or days or lives.  I am not an apologist for Nazi Germany.  I simply wish to see the larger pictures of which the USA and Britain and Spain are just a shadow of - inheriting culture from the People of the Book after it was passed through Greek culture … not to mention where they, meaning the Pythagoreans learned it from:  India, well, "the Hindus" …

That Judaic/Greek/Hindu-Buddhist mesh into "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" must have mutated into none other than the comically cockamani Holy Roman Catholic Church - what was left of the Roman Empire after it collapsed, being destroyed from within by the so-called "stupid barbarians" who they themselves had trained and encultured.   What ingrates, heh?  You see, Christianity evolved from contradictory parents, Judaism and Hinduism.  It can't reconcile the differences, and so it resorts to contradictions and violence, dividing families.  Division is Christianity's modus operandi, as is witnessed by the hatred in those who covet the One and Only True and Right CATHOLIC way, with its full-fledged bodily resurrections and impregnation by Holy Ghosts!  WOWZERS!   :o   ANd yet ... assension to spirit realm ... no reincarnation ? 

Fuuck it, two tears and a bucket.  I'm not losing any sleep over figuring my way out of that screwwed up mind fuuck.

As usual, my brain is not quite able to explain things as easily when I sit down to type.

Blame Ibra.  He encourages automatic typing.  The least censored as we can and still be able to sleep at night. 
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