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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2021, 10:14:15 pm »
You are too generous, Holden.  Before the second year of high school, before "Geometry," "Trigonometry," and "Calculus" mathematics had come easy to me.  I loved Algebra, you see.  This was before I was aware that there are more than one Algebra - before I knew of Abstract Algebra.   So, there was tremendous fear and self-doubt.  I would go so far as to say I was experiencing an intense identity crisis.

Without the "mathematics coming easy," my little world seemed to be falling to peices.  I began to be drawn to other things, such as the Occult and "Eastern Philosophy."   By the time I graduated high school, I wished to study "Asian Studies" at a Catholic college, Seton Hall.  We used to call it Satan Hall.    Well, back then in 1985, there was so little interest in Asian Studies that there was just myself and a young Black woman sitting in an office being told that Seton Hall would not be able to offer Asian Studies due to lack of interest.   We must have been ahead of our time, I suppose.  I mean, just look at the shifts in "superpowers" ... China and India are the big giants, and it was not long ago that Japan was also quite an economic force to be reckoned with. 

And yet, I was not interested in Asian Studies for any political reason, but mainly because I found the Philosophy "of the East" to be far more spiritual than that of the Pure Logicians.  This was before I ever even heard of Arthur Schopenhauer.  Imagine how excited and fascinated I was to read Schopenhauer's appraisal of the world philosophical situation.  He clearly favored the worldviews of the Asiatics over those coming out of the Abrahamic religions ...

I would not become interested in mathematics again until around 1993 while working for the park service.  My live-in girlfriend and her friend were taking courses at a community college.  She had me helping her friend with her Trigonometry homework.   This got me interested again.  I taught myself as much Calculus as I could, then went to the same community college, starting with Calculus as first class.  I did extremely well.  It was nearly 10 years after graduating high school.   I remember also becoming interested in programming through the use of the programmable scientific calculators, which really helped me get through Physics and Physics 2.

I do not like to discuss too much about formal academics as I do not wish to alienate those who might be terrified of such things as "Calculus-based Physics."   I am 54 years old and will most likely never be granted gainful employment where I would be able to compute, calculate, or mathematize.   How was I to know that it was all spiritual exercises?

I do not wish to delude myself as to how much I have been able to retain.  I find exercises in most physics texts to be challenging.   I may have burnt my brains out.   I have become quite gruff and even foul mouthed.   ;D
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While I empathise with the author on a number of points, in the article he prescribes violence, and I suppose, thinks of himself as being extremely radical while he does that. Well, the gorts expect Leninist revolutions  and they know how to put them down.
No, I have not turned Gandhian overnight.
You told me once that you spent hours thinking about the square root(negative 1).That ,to me, is what is truly radical.

I once asked you,why must 2+2 always be equal to 4 and not, say,217. I extend the question further, why could 2+2 not be equal to  Emperor Augustus?
This, to my mind, is the truly radical stance.It leaves the gorts flummoxed.

They want us to “Plug and Chug”, use mathematics to solve logistics problems and maybe build e-commerce websites.They do not want you to think about the square root of negative one.

But you do think about it.In fact,I am quite sure that you are irresistibly drawn towards it and would not be able to help yourself even if you were paid a million dollars to keep away from it.

Now,that, Mein Philosop,is what I think( and I have learnt this from you),is what is truly radical.
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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2021, 08:37:37 pm »
Thank you for your thoughful reply.   I suppose I mention Joe Stacks just to point out the extent to which some people are fed up.

As I age, maybe I will gain enough insight into why I have led such an uneventful life, and I will able to count most of my failures as actual successes.

Failing to be content to plug and chug, discontent with my own undertanding, always returning to basics and fundamentals to bring deeper understanding ...

And also, yes, to reach a point when I may sometimes no longer even care to pretend to understand something that is inherently confounding.

Awhile back I was reading several books by Derrick Jensen.  This is an excerpt from Endgame.


Another excerpt:  From chapter "Pacifism, Part IV"

Thank you, Holden, for your input. 

I also found an article, Psychological Mechanisms Involved in Radicalization and Extremism. A Rational Emotive Behavioral Conceptualization

I wish there were a way for us to be able to prevent ourselves from being made out to be "just another radicalized conspiracy theorist."

I want to take it to a different level, to a level of actual coherency.
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Re: Letters of Interest
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2021, 07:24:51 am »
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They want us to “Plug and Chug”, use mathematics to solve logistics problems and maybe build e-commerce websites.They do not want you to think about the square root of negative one.

But you do think about it.  In fact,I am quite sure that you are irresistibly drawn towards it and would not be able to help yourself even if you were paid a million dollars to keep away from it.

One of the few benefits of being a man of no means living on government-relief-funds [social security], forever penniless due to cost-of-living, is that, there are some days and weeks that I am, as you state, irresistibly drawn towards learning.  In fact, one of life's major disappointments seems to be just how little of the surface one might scratch.

With all the pain and anxiety that goes along with living, I have enjoyed learning and studying.  That's why I consider myself a contradiction.   This is what make me so depressed when I become "lost in the sauce" --- it is confounding how there is not really a solid personality residing inside the skin, that we are living processes, lived experience.  We ourselves may be a tale told by an idiot inside our own heads.

Maybe we can learn to have compassion for our own Inner Idiot.   We can hug our own animal body.   We can hold its hand and give it "emotional support."

Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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