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I don't exist
« on: October 06, 2014, 04:34:01 am »
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Re: I don't exist
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2014, 12:44:12 pm »
It says "This video is not available in your country."

I'm on Turtle Island, currently occupied by the United States of Amerika.

Where did you post the video from?

It's not available in the land of the free.   :o
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Re: I don't exist
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 02:39:26 pm »
Great to see you are back! How are you?
I posted it from the land of the Kiwi-New Zealand.

So,what are you reading/writing these days?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 10:17:25 am »
Some book called Angst:Depression and Anxiety.  The guy theorizes that our "mental illness" may have an evolutionary purpose .... something about our tribal ancestors ... I am in kind of a rush right now and I damaged one of my fingers, so typing is a little painful - not too bad though.  I was able to jump in the ocean this morning, but now I am running a little late.  Meeting up with The Mother 15 minutes ago.  Anxiety - panic attack.  It will pass.  I'll check in later today.  I want to read that "what's going on?" thread.
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Re: I don't exist
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2014, 03:25:14 pm »
Whats wrong with your finger? Did you get hurt?

Uncanny.That is the word.I have been reading the same subject.Also,you mentioned your friend's dad who smiled when he knew he was about to die? Well, I have been doing the count down too, will each tick of the clock I feel a little better.I look forward to the day on which the last grain of sand runs out of the hour glass.Given the similarity of our thought patterns I won't be surprised if we turned out to be spiritual twins or something ;)

I am sorry for the late reply.An uncle of mine died.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2014, 06:16:23 pm »
I slammed my finger in a cabinet.   :P

As for the word, uncanny, I remember my mother using that word all the time when I was a child.  She was/is the oldest of 8 siblings, and most every one of my aunts/uncles/cousins/etc have always treated her as though she were dense ... no wonder she has nervous ticks ... at age 10, she flipped off her handle bars, broke all her front teeth out, and developed Rheumatism.  Her farkin' fourth grade teacher made fun of her ... had the entire class of early 1950's gorts laughing at her ... (there is ice in the 21st century gorts' laughter still).

Where am I going with this?  Oh, that's right, this word, uncanny.  Mom used it all the time.  The point?  Well, for someone who "society" (which starts with unchosen kin) judges as "dense", The Mother has an elaborate vocabulary, profound emotional intelligence, and a wicked sense of humor ... Enough about her.  I'm obviously quite prejudiced (embracing her quirks with affection) since I dropped out of her like a bowel movement.  The Father actually referred to me as a little turd.  He had no patience for The Mother's "book learning." 

Again I wonder where I am going with this.  Actually, now that I am the age of the Steppenwolf when he was counting down to when he turned 50 (the day he was going to have an accident while shaving  :D), I am wondering if uncanny means much more than the context in which The Mother was using it.   

The only person I ever heard use this word besides The Mother is Thomas Ligotti.  He has a very specific definition ... By the way, the way I keep referring to the creature who I dropped out of as "The Mother" - I picked that up from Chuck Palahniuk's novel, Choke.

I don't have access to my copy of Ligotti's "Conspiracy," but I remember his use of the word UNCANNY had to do with SUPERNATURAL HORROR.   The Universe is indifferent to human happiness. 

uncanny

1.  having or seeming to have a supernatural or inexplicable basis; beyond the ordinary or normal; extraordinary:  uncanny accuracy; an uncanny knack of foreseeing trouble.

2.  mysterious; arousing superstitious fear or dread; uncomfortably strange:  Uncanny sounds filled the house.

(German: Das Unheimliche, "the opposite of what is familiar")

I don't exist.  Isn't that an uncanny statement?   What is identity?  These tubes ... I will have to continue this "session entry" after I nibble bread/garlic/butter, potatoes, carrots, chicken into orifice, down into the tubes where energy will be produced ... to heat the animal body ...

Where is the I?  I am my stomach, no?  Is it not uncanny to reflect upon the "head" protruding as an appendage of and slave to the stomach?  What are we if not bizarre monsters?

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The items and individuals that we project our own repressed impulses upon become a most uncanny threat to us, uncanny monsters and freaks akin to fairy-tale folk-devils, and subsequently often become scapegoats we blame for all sorts of perceived miseries, calamities, and maladies.
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Re: I don't exist
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 01:21:28 pm »
Prepare yourself for something uncanny.  There is a book I stumbled across while traversing through each book (browsing) in the New Book section of the library.  What caught my attention?   A text that had Deleuze and Guattari in the subtitle.  I'll have to create a tangent thread so I don't side-track what I'm trying to spit out right now.  I have taken some notes on other parts of the text that jolted me, but, like I said, they deserve their own thread. 

Note that this is why a message board is more suitable for our kind of discourse.  It will help us organize the chaos of our discussion.  Email would not be robust enough as far as keeping track of the "rhizomes" branching off [CHAOS!!!].   8)

Psychoanalysis and Ecology at the Edge of Chaos: Complexity Theory, Deleuze|Guattari and Psychoanalysis for a Climate Crisis by Joseph Dodds, circa 2011.

My interest had been initially in Chapter 9: Becoming-animal and horror, but the flow of the text kept my interest all along.  Now I am in the chapters that initially motivated me to read the book, especially the section Horror and the primal uncanny in nature.

Anyone who was blown away by Thomas Ligotti's only "philosophical manifesto" will understand why the concept of the uncanny is of such interest to me.

Well, Dodds quotes Freud (1919).

Quote from: Freud
This unheimlich [uncanny] place, however, is the entrance to the former Heim [Home] of all human beings, to the place where each one of us lived once upon a time and in the beginning ... the unheimlich is what was once heimisch, familiar; the prefix 'un' is the token of repression.

I have a question.  I'm not sure if I am looking for an answer or if I would just appreciate other beings wondering.

What are the implications of German unheimlich translating into English uncanny?

un --->  token of repression
heim ---> Home
lich ---> less

repressed homelessness? 

When something is at once both strange and familiar, that can be uncanny.  You feel as though you've known a person or a place for 1000 years, and you just met them or have never been there before.

Now, for anyone familiar with the work of Deleuze and Guattari, they invented what they call schizoanalysis which is actually a severe attack against psychoanalysis.  I had to restrain my prejudice against psychoanalysis just to open the book.  I think it was worthwhile keeping an open mind.  As the author, Joseph Dodds, admits, connecting the ideas of Deleuze and Guattari with psychoanalysis may seem unusual and even heretical.

I will look through Dead End to see if I stored any of my AntiOedipus research in there.  The bulk of it was at the message board that got cyber-bombed/redirected without my consent.  I will add a link if I find anything relevant just to give an idea of why I was drawn to this unique book in the first place.

AntiOedipus Revisited  (not too much)

Sidenote:  Deleuze ended his life voluntarily by jumping from a 7th story apartment building.  Dodds doesn't mention it.  I'm not sure where I learned of it.  You may want to check the facts for yourself, not that it marginalizes his ideas in any way ...
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Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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