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Berlin Lectures in Manuscript Remains?
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2020, 06:32:10 pm »
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I wish someone translated the Berlin Lectures. Maybe Schopenhauer is ,after all, checking out this message board from the other side,from time to time, and sent this book as the answer to our queries.

In the collection, Language, Logic and Mathematics in Schopenhauer, in one of the chapters written by the editor Jens Lemanski, Pages 47-71, Concept Diagrams and the Context Principle, in section 4 (Schopenhauer's Concept Diagrams and the Context Principle, I quote:

Quote from: Jens Lemanski
I only refer to Schopenhauer's Berlin Lectures, which are published in the Manuscript Remains.  These lectures were elaborated in the 1820's, edited by Mockrauser for the first time in 1913, and reprinted in 1986.  In what follows, I am referring to the Mockrauser edition of 1913. 

I, maybe not by luck or coincidence, but by conscious deliberation at the time of tracking down and purchasing, have in my possession, Volume 3 of the Manuscript Remains, that is, Berlin Manucripts (1818-1830) ... in English ... very small print, so it has been slow-going.  I actually require a magnifying glass to read it.  I think I had found a copy for less than 50 frog skins at the time.  Well, one thing is certain:  this presently released Language, Logic, and Mathematics in Schopenhauer will inspire, motivate, and most likely guide my careful inspection of the large volume 3 of Manuscipt Remains.  Just flipping to a random page, I was struck by a paragraph discussing word and concept.  Already, I think the scholars, including the editor, who wrote the chapters of the book I've read so far, have influenced my reading of the Manuscript Remains.  I have been spoiled by the ability to increase font sizes on terminals and screens, so, as with the mathematics texts, which are always hard copies, rarely digital, I just have to use magnifying glass (and for laying on back, reading glasses).

Also, on the inner flap/cover of Volume 3 [Berlin Manuscripts], it is written that the English version of The Manuscript Remains  represents the first five parts; the sixth (Vol V: Notes on Books) was declared untranslatable by Payne.

It was back in 2016 that Holden made me aware of the Manuscript Remains.  I was not at all aware of their existence.   

The Will's Harmonic Motion  (2016)

Schopenhauer Manuscript Remains

Schopenhauer's Philosophy of mathematics

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My parents, made me call up a young lady, who possess a post graduate degree in mathematics .I talked to her over the telephone and she seems to me to be obsessed with getting married and even more obsessed with having kids.

I ,on the other hand, am determined to dedicate all of the life to pessimistic philosophy(language, logic and mathematics being very much a part of it).
The paradox here is that ,generally speaking, people who are good at maths are supposed to wise.

The incontrovertible fact here is that,she is maths postgraduate major and I continue to struggle with even basic mathematics(but I grown to rather like this struggle). Yet, she is one who is determined to cause more suffering, more chaos.I just want to cease to exist.

I am not so sure if those who have the discipline and support to excel in the formal study of mathematics are necessarily wise.   In fact, all scientific professions require the scientist to be proficient in the language of mathematics.  Not all scientists are necessarily wise.

Is wisdom related to formal academic training? 

I would not think so, since there are wise people with little formal education.  I have made the efforts to get some formal education, but I sense any wisdom I have attained came from my lived experience, and certainly not from the Field Axioms or finding roots of polynomials.

Those of us who shy away from marriage and reproduction may be tapping into a wisdom that transcends the dictates of the survival of the species.   

I suppose many men might be intimidated by this young woman, with her knowledge of advanced mathematics.  Did you explain to her your apprehensions about bringing sentient life into this?   







« Last Edit: October 23, 2020, 09:45:19 pm by Sticks and Stones »
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Re: Burn Math Class
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2020, 03:17:47 pm »
I did not say anything unconventional to her,I just said to her that while it is true that I am in a very big city at the moment, mine is a transferable jobs and most of the organization's projects are in remote areas of country.It is highly likely that within a couple of years ,I would once again find myself in the middle of nowhere. So, even if we did have kids, they would have to study in third rate schools with very bad teachers.

Now, this is not necessarily false,in fact,its quite true. It worked to a certain extent. She said her kids are going to be her top priority and she wants the best possible education for them.

If push comes to shove,I have decided that I would stop taking my parents' calls. I cannot win verbal arguments with anyone.
I will do that I do best-hide.

I am not rich and the most valuable asset that I possess is my solitude during my off-duty hours. I would guard it with my life.

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On 'Language, Logic and Mathematics in Schopenhauer'
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2020, 03:09:21 pm »
By the way, I found it difficult to sustain motivation for taking notes from the collection, Language, Logic and Mathematics in Schopenhauer, edited and partially authored by Jens Lemanski.  I suppose I might have to skip many of the chapters (contributions) on language and search for the sections on logic and mathematics.

It is humbling to face the limits of our reason, the limits of what we are actually able to devote our conscious attention to.   :-\

I hope you, Holden, are continuing to stand your ground as far as "whether or how you want to live in this world."
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