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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2021, 07:58:37 pm »
I have been reading Minority Interest very attentively, some parts out loud.  I had taken a look at the book Raul of Paraguay suggested, The Nihilist, and finished it quickly.  The author took a great deal from Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race; but, all in all, I could easily identify with the protagonist/author, except for maybe his sexual appetite.  Mine, fortunately, is not so very fierce, thankfully.  It is still there, though.  I won't deny it.  Still, I can use reason to remind me of all the wrong trees I've barked up throughout my life.  Maybe eventually I will lose interest and just be content to "take matters into my own hands."   :-[

Martin Butler has a good grip on the horns of the bull.  Thank you for suggesting this Minority Interest.  It is hard to face all the negative emotions caused by life experiences but reading Butler has given me a little more courage to continue in my defiant manner to maintain a comic attitude of disdain (and even contempt) for the world, in general.

I have been feeling a little more trust in the life processes, and that we might actually experience great relief upon facing our mortality.  I want to take this opportunity to thank you for not pressuring me to construct or publish a book.  I really am after authenticity, and I would not be bothered in the least if all I leave behind are hand-written cursive diaries.  I am not at all embarrassed to reveal to the human world just how beaten-up I feel by life itself.

This is why phrases such as, "Life teaches us not to want it" (Schopenhauer) are so powerful for me.  Life experience, at least my own personal experience, validates many of Schopenhauer's conclusions.

In the end, we will come to our own conclusions about the nature of our existence; but, as you have stated many times, the suffering, confusion, and despair can often be suffocating, paralyzing even.   What can one conclude from this underlying stress and anxiety except that these are the life forces within us manipulating us through FORCE, the force of want and need, the force of desire ... the desire to continue to experience breathing, eating, shiTTing, sleeping ... understanding.

I am honestly perplexed that more people do not think about these things at great lengths.  Why are there not more Ciorans and Holdens?  There is the possibility that there are more introverts out there than we would expect.  It's just that the extroverts bully the introverts into submitting to outer-directed goals.  I like Butler's take on social control and how he makes it very clear that following some of his suggestions will lead others to hate us, to disapprove of us, and to resent us for our refusal to submit to the same oppressors they do.

Be kind to yourselves.
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