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Why Bother? / Fitter, Happier Hegelians (Where'd all the Individuals go???)
« Last post by Silenus on February 01, 2025, 12:00:34 pm »
To All,
  If you'll allow me to ramble a little "crazy talk" in here...

  I wish you all as much solitude as you can muster.  Here in America, we further our plunge into a Centralized, Technological Hell as wildfires rage in winter-time.  Your body, your mind and your property have been purchased for cheap and no one is coming to help or save you.

  Human Chimpanzee too irrational, "acting out" a bit?  Can we get this necktie-enthusiast a Neuralink chip and monitor his brain waves?  The State won't tolerate ANY deviations.  It simply CAN'T!

  You wanted water and air without microplastics in it?  What, you want us to stop the train of PROGRESS?

  People can barely afford to feed themselves here and yet there is no end to the distractions, the screens (screens everywhere),  the cheap electrical JUNK wrapped in plastic - in fact, a proliferation of plastic: plastic faces, plastic asses, plastic lawns, plastic neighborhoods, plastic lifestyles.

  People can barely afford rent and yet there is no end to the lifestyle fads, "influencers," the production, the consumption, the baby-making, the weapons-making.

  You don't need food or a roof, what you need is to figure out which form of 19th century Centralized, Bureaucratic, Security State from Hell you'd prefer to live under, and prepare to sacrifice yourself defending the idea!  Socialist, you say?  Oh, a Communist? Does the symbol of the Fasces make you feel less lonely?  You know, it's never good to be alone!

HIGH-TECH-LIFESTYLE-FAD-FREAKS WANT TO MOLD THE MONKEY IN ME.  BORED ASSHOLES, MEANINGLESS LIVES.  MY PRICK IS MINE -  FFUCK YOU!  ;D

HIGH-TECH PROLIFERATION - ON A DENUDED EARTH - FILLED WITH 8 BILLION RATS - CHASING DESIRE (CHASING CHEESE) - INCREASINGLY DESTITUTE - INCREASINGLY SUPERSTITIOUS (THAT "GOOD TIME RELIGION!") - INCREASINGLY VICIOUS - LOOKING FOR AN ESCAPE HATCH - TO RELIEVE THEIR MISERABLE ROTTEN CONDITION ON A PLANTATION PLANET.

  Oh, don't worry - they'll get the Hell they dream of!  I believe they call it "Utopia."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PJEpeU00eU

"Smile, Sweetheart!  The light makes you glow!"


FFUCK THIS WORLD!
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Why Bother? / Crows (to Holden)
« Last post by Silenus on February 01, 2025, 11:14:15 am »
Holden,
  You may enjoy this dream sequence on Vincent van Gogh (played by Martin Scorcese) taken from the film Dreams by Akira Kurosawa.

As Artaud succinctly pointed out, van Gogh had a "butcher's face," that is, a butcher of men and their ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKSUpyENtwo

Take care.
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Why Bother? / Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Last post by raul on January 29, 2025, 07:53:47 am »
Holden,

Thank you for your message. I hope to write in the board as long as I can. Here the heat is unbearable.

I suppose the world has always been a mess. We have been programmed to copulate and reproduce. In different circumstances I could have fathered a child. I am relieved I am not a parent.  The social pressure has a lot to do with bringing children into this world. The bloodline must be preserved at all costs. You are different. You do not care about preserving your bloodline. You do not care what society thinks. Therefore you are a pariah wherever you go. Much anxiety, sorrow and anguish await you.  The only courtesy you will get from society is pressure to conform to mad norms and regulations. Welcome to the circus of endless pain with its absurd wars, hunger, politics and pointless entertainment and corrupted by power, sex and money.

You already know this. We are pestilent creatures, indoctrinated to follow patterns all our lives. Yes, we, pathetic puppets, not wanting to know the nightmare we have been thrown into.

Yes, Earth has been a killing field for millennia. That is the reason we remember conquerors such as Alexander The Great, Gengis Khan, Napoleon Bonaparte and many others who have shed blood in this prison farm. Maybe you watched a part of a documentary about Idi Amin, the Ugandan butcher from 1971 to 1979. This creature caused immense pain by causing the death of 300,000 people. But now the Grim Reaper has come with a different face. His face is hidden behind a face mask and holding a syringe since 2020.

I do not trust the mainstream media, e.g., BBC because truth is not in their interest. War in itself is a crime.  Well, life is a crime.

Stay safe.
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Why Bother? / Crazy (To Don Raul)
« Last post by Holden on January 28, 2025, 12:37:55 pm »

Don Raul,

I am very sorry for the late response. The last week was very rough. Very rough. I don’t even know how I could managed to get throw it. But here I am. The winter really gets to  me. It chills my bones. I don’t know what exactly I am doing here. I mean, this world is a mess, so am I. Why would one bring a kid into the world. Probably for egoistical reasons.

I keep moving from one disaster to the next. Disaster after disaster. I was listening to the BBC. The Russians are apparently bombing a region which has got a maternity hospital in it. The doctors have taken the expectant mothers to the basement. Am I supposed to feel sorry for them?
Well, I do. I kind of do feel sorry for them. But you cannot expect the BBC to ask the more significant question. Why the kids?

From Homer onward,all one gets to read about is death. Killings. Killing fields. I thought they would exhibit enough courtesy to offer me a poison shot. Apparently not. My life has been very sad , you know. I don’t think I would like to carry on. But it is not so easy. Not easy.

Please take care.
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Why Bother? / Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Last post by raul on January 25, 2025, 05:30:27 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for your messages. This is my time to apologize for my late reply. My old computer broke down.
Once you were brought into this mad world the sadness is forever. There is no cure except sleep on a temporary basis or death. Certainly you are not a normal person because you think too much. Thinking critically is a big disadvantage in this world. It brings problems to you. The less you think the longer you will be able stay in this slaughterhouse called Earth.  You are a rebel, you are the one refusing to stay asleep. No, you know you were born in chains. You see the cracks in this diabolical system.

Years ago I read that Earth is small and isolated planet which is used as a zoo for those extraterrestrial beings deemed criminals or misfits. Are we criminal aliens? Maybe this explains the bitter situation of humanity in this human farm. Evil is in everybody, evil is in each of one of us.

We are controlled, as we often said, by unseen hands. We move like puppets and we are not aware of the forces that shape our reality. Everything has been manipulated. Including myself, we enjoy our stay in this cage, this Earth. Millions and millions work, consume, obey, take the jab since 2020. Every path has been made to keep us in line. Yes, we toe the line and we are happy about it.
No ism is the solution to us, wretched human creatures, socialism, communism, fascism,Nazism, or this strange concoction called wokeism are chains. On the issue of distraction I remember what the Roman sage, Juvenal wrote: “Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt.” We are kept in the dark to never ask the real questions.

I learned a new word in English, eremition, which is the act of gradually fading from the lives of others, not out of malice but a desire for solitude or renewal.
Stay vigilant.
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Why Bother? / Re: The Dark Side (a profound concentration of negativity)
« Last post by Mic True Son on January 20, 2025, 02:23:01 am »
This thread has been not been touched since October 31st, 2021.

I had to refer to it for its mentioning Boethius and his The Consolations of Philosophy:

It is from 2017

Excerpts from Thoughts on the Futility of Life from the Ancient Greeks to the Present by Alan R. Pratt
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Sweetness is always tainted with bitterness ~ Petrinius Arbiter d. A.D.66 "Satyricon"

It was fear that first brought gods into the world.

~ Petrinius Arbiter d. A.D.66 "Satyricon"

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For men who are fortunate, life is short; but for those who fall into misfortune, one night is an infinite time.  ~ Lucian, Epigram  c. A.D. 170

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The Medieval World: Very Dark Ages, Indeed A.D. 500-1350

Quote from: Alan Pratt
While Christianity created a great deal of emotional stress for believers, its impact on the intellectual life of the time was disastrous.  Even the earliest Christians felt that rational analysis was unreliable in matters of faith.  Tertullian, for example, rejected reason altogether and seriously argued that the most persuasive evidence for belief was its patent absurdity.  Eventually the all-encompassing Church became the unquestioned, final authority on both ecclesiastical and secular affairs.  Some of the negative results of this development included a bloodthirsty inquisition, the tortured and unintelligible logic of the scholastic philosophers, and centuries of intellectual intolerance and stagnation.


He [God] fashioned hell for the inquisitive.

As far as this life of mortals is concerned, which is spent and ended in a few days, what does it matter under whose government a dying man lives?

~  St. Augustine A.D. 374-430
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BOETHIUS

(Remember Toole's Confederacy of Dunces?  This was the author of The Consolations of Philosophy, the book cherished by the main character, Ignatius Reilly)

Who hath so much happiness that he is not on some part offended with the condition of his estate?

In every adversity of fortune, to have been happy is the most unhappy kind of misfortune.

An everlasting law is made,
That all things born shall fade.
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It is a misery to be born, a pain to live, a trouble to die.

~  St. Bernard of Clairvaux 1090-1153,
    De Consideratione

Tell me, O mortal man, tell me about the putridity of the worm;
Tell me o flesh, o dust, what good is the glory of Flesh?
O man wretch, why do you take pride in putridity?
Learn what you are, what you will be; remember that you will die.
First you were sperm, then stench, then food for worms, then dust,
And thence nothing; what then, does a man have to be proud about?
As the rose pales when it feels the sun draw near, so man will vanish:
Now he is, now he has ceased to be.

~ Cambridge University Library MS Ee, Vi. 29, fol. 17  c.1200

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The Renaissance: The Rebirth of Angst   1350-1625

Quote from: Alan Pratt
Dissatisfaction with the growing wealth and unchecked corruption of the Roman Catholic church helped to disrupt and eventually break down the static medieval worldview, and the long hibernation of free inquiry slowly began to end.  For the first time in a thousand years, investigations into the nature of the world could be conducted without ecclesiastical interference and the threat of heresy.

For the masses, then, there was no Renaissance, for, as in ages past, they were preoccupied with the same day-to-day struggle for survival that had consumed the lives of their ancestors, a struggle made more difficult, no doubt, by crumbling myths and traditions.

While I thought I have been learning to live, I have been learning to die.
~ Leonardi Da Vinci, 1452-1519, Notebooks


Condemned and doomed to die, we are all shut up in the prison of this world.
~ St. Thomas More  1478-1535, On the Vanity of this Life


It is more secure to be feared than to be loved.
~ Niccolo Machiavelli  1469-1527, from The Prince

To speak of the people is to speak of madmen, for the people is a monster full of confusion and error, and its vain beliefs are as far from truth as is Spain from India.
~  Francesco Guicciardini, The Story of Italy  1853


Will is the pimp of appetite.
~  Lope De Vega  1562-1635, Los Locos de Valencia

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Quote from: Alan Pratt
In Michel De Montaigne's [1533-1592] masterpiece of self-analysis, the collected Essays (1560-1580), one can follow the evolution of his thought from stoicism to skepticism.  The more carefully he pursued knowledge, the less he knew.  His motto "What do I know?  What does it matter?" sums up his skeptical reaction to all things.  His answer, "It may be and it may not be," suggests his dissillusionment and cynicism and testifies to his awareness that relativity is everywhere, that there are no absolutes.

We imagine ourselves superior to all creatures by virtue of our reason, he concludes, but all rational theorizing has not revealed even one universal truth. What is, we cannot know.

From Essays:

There is no animal in the world so treacherous as man.

In the midst of compassion we inwardly feel a kind of malicious delight to see others suffer.

We are no nearer heaven on top of Mount Cenis than at the bottom of the sea.

Pleasure itself is painful in its depth.

From "Apology for Raymond Sebond" in Essays II:

Of all the part of what we know is the least part of what we know not.

Nothing is so firmly believed as that which is least known.

By this variety and instability of opinions they lead us as by the hand, tacitly, to this conclusion of their inconclusiveness ... They do not openly to profess ignorance and the imbecility of human reason so as not to frighten the children: but they reveal it to us clearly enough under the guise of a muddled and inconsistent knowledge.

Now, since our condition accommodates things to itself and transforms them according to itself, we no longer know what things are in truth, for nothing comes to us except falsified and altered by our senses.  The uncertainty of our senses makes everything they produce uncertain.

Since the senses cannot decide or dispute, being themselves full of uncertainty, it must be reason that does so.  But no reason can be established without another reason: there we go retreating back to infinity.

That last one reminded me very much of Holden's "philosophical skepticism concerning the validity of the foundations of mathematics," when he writes:

Quote from: Holden
We can spend our time working on mathematical proofs ,but surely, we cannot overlook the fact that the Dolciani book lays down what is intended to be secure base of absolute truth:the axioms of logic,the intuitively certain principles of mathematics, the self-evident axioms and rules.Each of these foundations is assumed without demonstration,leaving them open to challenge and doubt.This book uses deductive logic to demonstrate the truth of theorems of mathematics.Consequently,the book fails to establish the absolute validity of mathematical truth.For deductive logic can only transmit truth,not inject it,and the conclusion of a proof is no more certain than the weakest premise.

and

Quote from: Holden
The quest for certainty in mathematics leads inevitably to a vicious cycle.Any mathematical system depends on a set of assumptions,and trying to establish their certainty by proving them leads to infinite regression. There is no way of discharging the assumptions.Without proof,the assumptions remain fallible beliefs,not necessary knowledge.All that can be done is to minimise them,to get a reduced set of axioms,which have to be accepted without proof.The only alternative is to replace one set of assumptions by another.But replacement merely starts off a further circuit of the vicious cycle.

Hence, no reason can be established without another reason: there we go retreating back to infinity.

O senseless man, who cannot make a maggot and yet will make gods by the dozen!

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Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscribed.
In one selfe place, for where we are is hell,
And where hell is, must we ever be.
~  Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus

Hope is the fawning traitor of the mind, while, under color of friendship, it robs it of its chief force of resolution.
~  Sir Philip Sidney, Arcadia   1590
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Why Bother? / The Sadness (To Don Raul)
« Last post by Holden on January 19, 2025, 01:29:41 pm »


Don Raul,

The great sadness that shrouds me keeps deepening. How can one can rid of it? I don’t think I can without getting rid of myself.There is a lot of people who want one to be believe that alcohol or whatever can get rid of it. I don’t think so. What if I perform a small experiment and embrace my sadness? Of course I know I am not ‘normal’. I don’t talk to people.

They drug people with sports. Soccer,cricket,what have you. All drugs. Hollywood,Bollywood. They are all garbage. What if the gun laws here were like in the US? Would I still be around?
Hauntology. The study of the fact that the past is never the past. It haunts our present. So, does the future. It haunts.

I thought for a while maybe ‘Socialism’ was the solution. What a bloody fool! DMT is all the rage now. No and again no. There is no solution. No salvation. I sleep among the ghosts. I am told the unit I stay at was occupied by a man who wanted to be an actor. He did not make it. He had written some song lyrics on the back of the bedroom door. I cannot read it. It is too faded.
Too ghostly.

Take care.
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JUNK DRAWER / Some Quotes, Poems and Stories
« Last post by raul on January 16, 2025, 06:49:09 pm »
“If children were brought into into the world by an act of pure reason alone, would the human race continue to exist? Would not a man rather have so my sympathy with the coming generation as to spare it the burden of existence?”
Arthur Schopenhauer





“You know that Rothschild that passed just away in the mountains of California in a fire that it took them 33 minutes to put out; that seems very oddly specific but were you aware that this happened in a place called Laurel Canyon, are you familiar with Laurel Canyon?

Maybe I can refresh your memory or tell you something new here today that you didn´t know.

Laurel Canyon was the home of Wonderland Air Force Base. Wonderland Air Force Base had created an entire studio on their acres of property, the studio was not just for recording music but it was also for making films; this was the propaganda arm of our military and it´s pretty fascinating stuff if you think about it because not only did they infiltrate the industry music but also infiltrated the film industry and this is pretty well known by most of us at this point, at least I hope so but what´s super interesting is that each of the homes up there, many of them if not all of them have tunnels that connect to each other underground , not just to each other but all the way down into town , all the way down into nightclubs, fun things like that.

There was huge movement in the sixties when the war was starting out and a lot of the people at the time similar to today wanted nothing to do with it.

They were peace loving people who said this isn´t our fight , I don´t wanna go to war and it became a hippie movement; well, the wonderful Wonderland Air Force Base decided they wanted to put their hand in manipulation into this movement so they completely manufacture artists such as the Doors, Joni Mitchell and I could go on there´s so many but these artists a lot of them were not artists even to begin with. Some of them had never even touched an instrument in their entire lives and so they would fly in people into this Air Force Base to make sure that the sound that was coming out of these records was pristine and beautiful although it wasn´t even actually played by the frontment  of these bands. It´s pretty fascinating stuff.

Apparently they ended these,uh, programs after a while, that´s what they say anyway. I think they just moved but Laurel Canyon is also well known for other things too like Charles Manson and his cult, There´s an interesting connection for you. The guy who ended up buying Wonderland Air Force Base because it´s now decommissioned is Jared Leto, yeah he owns it now.

Just think of the things he could produce in that space and what´s interesting is he also seems to have a cult like following, fascinating stuff. Go down that rabbit hole of the Laurel Canyon, you´ll be fascinated I promise. Houdini even had a house there; in fact I think you can go on this app and find a video when his house went up for sale or something, anyway they toured it  and you could see the lavish gardens and they even mention the tunnels.

These things that you call conspiracy theories actually go way further back than you realize, it´s not something that just started in the 21st century. It´s been going on for a really, really long time. Do yourself a favor and look into Laurel Canyon.
From Kricket Moon         





“I am plunged in total and absolute apathy.
My life is a tomb.”
Unknown





“Maybe it´s all just chance, but people tend to believe that their existence is somehow special. In the end, it is enough to know how absurd and pathetic is all this infamous creation and to feel unhappy for this “great opportunity” Great opportunity…
For or of what? To suffer? To become jaded? To end up longing only for death?
The Execrable Human Essence
Arik Eindrok






“The CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) created Google.
The United States intelligence community, nurtured and incubated  Google as part of a drive to dominate the world through the control of information and surveillance.”
Forbidden Truth – Telegram





“Is not life, definitely, just a sordid and absurd nightmare from which we are so terrified of waking up? The being is a frighteningly dismal and cowardly  creature, so much so that he prefers to take refuge in any derisory fallacy rather than begin to glimpse, even a little, the great truth thatlies in the deepest regions of his innmermost being.”
Arik Eindrok





“Thinking too much robs you of life, robs you of happiness and robs you of a smile.”
Morfeo Pesadillas-FB





“He was terrified of human beings, they seemed to him unpredictable, but above all perverse and dirty.”
Ernesto Sábato
Argentine writer





“To make the dreary lambs love their own existential misery and, moreover, to contribute to expanding and perpetuating it as much as possible is, in short, the fundamental point to be met for a world such as this, so deplorable and infectious, to continue its disgusting and banal cycle of human filth. Is it really worth carrying on?
Arik Eindrok





“Dear citizens of Los Angeles; you´re under attack.
It´s called hybrid warfare.
The enemies of America have sent agents through the border to burn you down.
Notice the preparation. No water in hydrants. No water in reservoirs. No fire insurance. No equipment.”
Well planned.”
Emerald Robinson





“When God is with you, there´s nothing  to fear…
During WWI, 17-year-old soldier Leonard Knight´s life was saved by his pocket Bible when it stopped a bullet. The book has been passed down through his family and still has the bullet embedded in it.”
From Laura Aboli





“This is the end of human history. Not the end of history, but the end of a history dominated by humanity. The story will go on, but someone else will control it.”
Yuval Noah Harari
World Economic Forum Chairman Klaus Schwab´s lead adviser

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Why Bother? / Crushed under the Wheel of Samsara (To Don Raul)
« Last post by Holden on January 15, 2025, 08:38:46 pm »


Don Raul,

I once again apologise for the late response.  I must say that with every post your prose is getting more hard-hitting than ever. Supposedly, English is your second language, even so, it is extremely precise when it comes to the description of our plight. I can only imagine how great your Spanish must be.

I have been thinking about the flying saucers which people claim to be seeing in New Jersey. Maybe it is not so much a physical entity as projection of our ‘soul’ which yearns for something out of the ordinary ,from time to time.

Also, some people claim to have seen Loch Ness Monster in Scotland. The Irish have similar legends and in the ancient China and also all over Europe in the middle ages, the belief about the Dragon was widespread. Again, maybe it is not so much a biological being as a representative of the ‘evil’ that we witness and experience ourselves every single day.

As far as I am concerned, you are right, this year would probably be worse than the last. I hope it turns out of the last,for me. 

Please take care and please keep writing. It functions as the light-house for many lost boats like mine.
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Why Bother? / Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Last post by raul on January 12, 2025, 07:17:18 am »
Holden,
Thank you for your message. You have been going through tough situations all this 2024. This 2025 will also prove to be harder than the previous year.

You and the millions in this world are suffering beings. It cannot be different. We were brought to suffer pain, sorrows, anguish and endless disappointments. Again this is the wretched nature of life on this Earth. I sometimes envy those who find life in this cage called Earth amusing.

You feel okay when you are alone in your room because you do not have to deal with us, including me, disgusting monkeys. Life is an endless punishment, as we have always written here. As you have often said we are under the wheel of samsara.

Here the weather is unbearably hot. You can feel it when walking on the streets.

Had we been in the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Communist China, we might have been locked up in mental establishments  or end up in front of firing squads. During the infamous reign of Pol Pot, aka Brother Number One in Cambodia, you could be shot just for wearing glasses. However in the so-called democratic countries the situation is not so different. Just bear in mind all these lockdowns, curfews, restrictive measures even to work, the push  by governments for Covid-19 experimental injections, in these last five years due to the so-called pandemic. The situation is changing in the United States and Europe but I just wonder if we are only changing one global dictatorship for another. I think tougher times are coming.

A war has been and is being waged against all of us. Just look at the news in California, USA. These fires are not happening at random. These forest fires are military weapons.

I watched a movie directed by Anthony Maras about the attacks carried out by Pakistan-based terrorists on the Hotel Mumbai in November of 2008. Several locations were under attack by suicide commandos. From what I understand the government of India let people get slaughtered in the famous hotel. The security forces reacted very slowly and the tragedy was inevitable. It is another example that evil is in everyone, in each one of us.

We did not design this system of vampires but we feed it with our blood. When we came into this world everything was in place. We did not choose the legal, economic, financial system in our countries. These all were imposed on us. We did not have a say. We have been living a world order that came as a result of the end of World War Two.

Stay safe.


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