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Title: Population control
Post by: raul on June 03, 2020, 06:44:28 am
Holden,

In your post about China´s one child policy I read that overpopulation was a such a huge issue that in China the communist government forced couples to have one child for many years. As a result parents aborted or killed girls in favor of having boys as their only child.But the PRC abandoned that policy many years ago.

I read that Israel was working on a biological weapon designed to kill specifically the Palestinians and Arabs. Their intention was to use the ability of viruses and certain bacteria to alter the DNA inside their host’s living cells. The scientists tried to engineer deadly microorganisms that attack only those bearing the distinctive genes. It was clearly mass killings by racial profiling, in other words.

As you know th elite believes that the exploding population of the world resembles a virus or plague and that it must be combated as such. They are with population control. They don’t give a damn which races they target because their only concern is to have the population at a figure they feel is controllable. Millions and millions of us are seen as a herd to them—their own herd. If what I hear is true this CCP virus was part of their plan to wipe out billions of us in quick fashion.

As I remember  On December 10, 1974, a document was submitted to the United States’ National Security Council. The report´s title was “Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests.” The author,Henry Kissinger, was the national security advisor to the president of the United States and the U.S. secretary of state.

Kissinger had plans to deal with the problems that overpopulation would cause. He suggested that a plan should be implemented to to target certain nations for depopulation. These included India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines, Turkey, Nigeria, Egypt, Ethiopia, Mexico, Colombia, and Brazil.  Kissinger had concluded that almost half of the increase in the world’s population would be caused by these countries, In his program people would be punished for having more than one child.

Kissinger’s concern was that if some of the nations near collapse were ones from which the United States purchased vital commodities, such as oil, then this would likely plunge the United States into a dangerous situation. He foresaw chaos and anarchy. For this reason, Kissinger felt that the world of national security  should lead the fight against overpopulation. In short, for the elite to survive millions must go.

In this world we are just statistics.

Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 04, 2020, 03:34:14 am
Senor Raul,

 In his program people would be punished for having more than one child.-Senor Raul

Punished how exactly ,Senor Raul?
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Ibra on June 04, 2020, 03:40:40 am
Senor Raul,
your acute observations are a joy to read.
Henry Kissinger is indeed an evil person. but evil always prevail, we ain't in a utopia. he had a Nobel peace prize in 1973 (talk about irony). I heard a joke a while ago, that president Obama holds the world record for the most children killed by a nobel peace prize winner.  ;D.  because his drone program that bombarded our brown people in middle east. obviously middle east has a fiery duo of religion and oil. well, "might is right" right?

we are no angels of course, if we have power we would have done the same( we did that in the past). that the  same Obama the "Left" acclaim and praise as a good person in the media cause he used to share cute pics on the media. and spin-doctored to the masses.
I don't follow any ideology of course, the human race is incorrigible. I share Mr Holden sentiment that any change is for the worse.

Senor raul, earth for me is all a giant Petri dish and we bacteria we will grow consuming nature and each other until no more and then we die.

I hope your health and eyesight are not worsening.
stay safe and drink a lot of Maté,
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 04, 2020, 03:52:00 am
Senor Raul,

If the elites decide to get me exterminated in a painless manner then I dont see anything wrong with their approach.
It is only the bodily pain and weakness that is intolerable to me.Emotionally, I am killed almost everyday in the office.
They wish to convince me that I am good for nothing, that I am worse than a stray dog who does not even deserve crumbs of bread.
I wish there were some kind of drug which would take my hunger away forever.

Take care.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: raul on June 04, 2020, 09:57:34 am
Ibra,

Thank you for your words. I hope you and your family are allright specially in these circumstances. I agree with your view that Earth is all a giant Petri dish where we are the bacteria. We are the bacteria in a human farm.

I read that some in the USA called Obama Bombama because he droned anyone and everyone, anywhere and everywhere. His skin is black but his heart is blacker if he has one. After all he was/is just a puppet.Others are pulling the strings. Some say he is the puppet of the Bilderbergers.

Yes, humans are no angelic beings. Homo sapiens sapiens is incorrigible. I suppose our ancestors, the other prototypes such as the Cro Magnon, Neanderthal, Florensis, were not well designed and failed. Faulty creatures are not needed.

One must remember what Hitler and Stalin did in WWII and before them we have the Armenian Genocide by the Turkish and before that the extermination of the Herero people in what is now Namibia in 1904 by Imperial Germany.  Hitler waged a total war of extermination against the Jews. I also take into account T4,the Nazi euthanasia program where many were eliminated some time before the start of WWII. This Earth is soaked in blood.

Yes, Kissinger, in my view, is only a sort of manager of these measures. I am sure there are powerful forces behind his plans.  He stated in his document that a long-term sterilizing capsule could be inserted in women at puberty and will be removed, with official permission, for a limited number of births. Control must be implemented but still a limited number of slaves are needed. And all this was prepared in the 1970s.

And he is not the only one. Years ago I heard about this Club of Rome whose founder Aurelio Peccei said:
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. ...The real enemy then is humanity itself.”

In the first years of the nineteenth century the world’s population reached one billion. By around 1930 two billion. By the sixties, three billion, four billion by the mid 1970s, and five billion by the late eighties. When the twenty-first century started, six billion. In 2013, Earth reached seven billion. By 2040, Earth reaches nine billion. Again for the elite to survive we must go. Simple as that.

If these control measures are enforced from now on the question is: will millions of pregnant women go to jail or be forced to have abortions or even sterilized at a faster speed? Wars, famines, plagues, floods,etc., have not been enough for those in power.

But this population control is also aided by the drug companies. A Danish doctor, Peter Gotzsche, said that “the main reason we take so many drugs is that drug companies don’t sell drugs, they sell lies about drugs.” He also said that “patients don’t realise that, although their doctors may know a lot about diseases and human physiology and psychology, they know very, very little about drugs that hasn’t been carefully concocted and dressed up by the drug industry. Furthermore, they don’t know that their doctors may have self-serving motives for choosing certain drugs for them, or that many of the crimes committed by the drug industry wouldn’t be possible if doctors didn’t contribute to them.”

Willingly or unwillingly doctors kill patients too. Specially now with this CCP virus this is more true than ever. Mr. Gotzsche said that “in 1965, a Swiss veterinarian published findings that dogs treated with clioquinol developed acute epileptic convulsions and died. Guess what Ciba’s response was to this. Ciba
inserted a warning in the drug’s packaging in England that it should not be used in animals!”.

A subsidiary of the firm, Pfizer, pleaded guilty to misbranding drugs ‘with the intent to defraud or mislead’, and the firm was found to have illegally promoted four drugs: Bextra (valdecoxib, an anti-arthritis drug, withdrawn from the market in 2005), Geodon (ziprasidone, an antipsychotic drug), Zyvox (linezolid, an antibiotic) and Lyrica (pregabalin, an epilepsy drug). Pfizer agreed to pay $2.3 billion in 2009. I think this amount of money for Pfizer was just like giving a tip to a waiter.

He mentions that a “particularly amusing example is botulinum toxin, which is a neurotoxin produced by the bacterium Clostridium botulinum. It is one of the strongest poisons in nature, and a dose of only 50 ng killed half of the monkeys in a toxicity study (which means that 1 g can kill 10 million monkeys). I wonder who needed this information so badly that it was worth killing our animal relatives to get it. And yet, what is this amazing killer drug used for? For treating wrinkles between the eyebrows! This comes with age, but you shouldn’t be too old and have too much tremor when you inject the toxin, as it can be absorbed from the mucous membranes in the eye and kill you.”

The Russian and Italian mafia are babies in comparison to Big Pharma cartels.

Stay well.


P.D. Below is a link to a vide posted by a Spanish youtuber, Pilar Baselga, where people in Geneva, Switzerland are having a good time. The World Health Organization is located in Switzerland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vi2UVt9Hz8
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: raul on June 04, 2020, 10:04:05 am
Holden,

They want to convince you that you are good for nothing? Remember, these people will die and their words will vanish. It is them who will not even have a crumb of bread. Some have uttered the same words to me too. I won´t lie here. I wish nothing good to them. Even so ,all of them and I will have our appointments with Mr.CCP virus at this moment.
 
From my point of view the elites want to inflict much pain on humanity. They are doing it now with their spread of the CCP virus, lockdowns, economic destruction, social distancing, face masks, police harassment and endless anxiety. They already have their Global Vault Seed in Svalbard, Norway. This is their Noah´s ark. Their seed bank in the Arctic archipelago. I read that their funding comes from Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and other organizations.

Again those who wish you ill may end up in worse conditions.

Stay safe.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 05, 2020, 10:27:37 am
To Senor Raul,

Before Kant we lived in space and time. Now space and time lives in us.(Negative Philosophy).
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 05, 2020, 01:28:08 pm
Senor Raul,

I would be very interested in finding out your thoughts on Chevez-Maduro brand of socialism. And what do you make of Camilo Soares Machado?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 06, 2020, 05:32:40 am
Senor Raul,
In the US a lot of riots are taking place ,I hope Herr Hauser is safe.
Are there any Cubans in Paraguay?
Have you watched Spotlight:

https://youtu.be/EwdCIpbTN5g


Why to you think the Catholics priests molested kids?
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: raul on June 06, 2020, 05:13:49 pm
Holden,

Regarding Colonel Hugo Chávez, I can only tell you that, as far as I remember, he led a coup against Venezuelan President Carlos Andrés Pérez in 1992, his coup failed and spent some time in a military prison. He ran for president winning the elections in 1998 and dying in 2013. He came to Paraguay in 2003 when Oscar Nicanor Duarte Frutos became president of Paraguay. Paraguay owes money to PDVSA, the Venezuelan state oil company.

When Monsignor Fernando Lugo became president in 2008 he came to visit Paraguay. I heard that he supported Lugo greatly and the then Ministry of Foreign Affairs Nicolás Maduro came some days before Lugo was removed from power in 2012. Maduro became president after Chavez´s death. Chávez always spoke about Simón Bolívar, the Liberator of the Americas. He proclaimed a Revolución Bolivariana or Bolivar´s Revolution. His political party is the Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela.

There were rumors that his cancer was really a political assassination. He went to Cuba to have a treatment for cancer. I often heard him on TV talking about the socialist revolution. I always thought that it was easy to speak of socialism when Venezuela was a member of OPEC, the organization of petroleum exporting countries and 80 percent of the oil went to the USA. I can say that he was a very charismatic leader, remembering him from the distance. He always shouted Patria, Socialismo o Muerte or Fatherland, Socialism or Death.

He admired much the Cuban leader, Fidel Castro and Venezuelan oil saved the Cuban economy. There was a failed coup d´etat against him in 2002.I remember watching on TV when he met the Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in 2003. That must have angered Mr.Bush at that time. I think it was in 2006 when Colonel Chávez went to the UN to give his speech. He gave his speech some time after Bush and he said that that place should be exorcised by a priest.

I often heard Camilo Soares on the radio stations here. He started a socialist movement in 2006 named PMAS, Partido del Movimiento al Socialismo. I think he is a sociologist. He was part of the cabinet of President Fernando Lugo. He was in charge of the Secretariat for National Emergency but he faced legal problems owing to allegations of corruption. His case is still pending in court. Last year he was involved in the resignation of the Intendente (mayor of the city) Mario Ferreiro because of some payments.

Paraguay has diplomatic relations with Cuba. There are some Cubans living here. Some of the left the island to have better perspectives. I don´t know if there are Cuban exiles.

Take care.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: raul on June 06, 2020, 05:35:50 pm
Holden,

Why have Catholic priests molested children? It is a difficult question and no easy answers. I suppose many of these priests suffered sexual abuse at home or even in the seminaries. Maybe their confessors did not detect these problems before they were ordained or they just turned a blind eye because they thought they would vanish in time. I think it also has to do with the fact these priests did not have any sexual relationships with women. This repression must have caused severe psychological harm.

I remember Pope Francis removed a bishop in Ciudad del Este because he promoted a priest accused of child abuse in 2014. Two years ago a Redemptorist priest was convicted of abusing a 14-year old boy but he received a light sentence in Encarnación. He was given a two-year jail sentence and fined with a $ 800 fine. I think there must be many cases but where a sort of agreement was reached.

Stay well.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 08, 2020, 05:07:58 pm
Senor Raul,
Thanks for the response.
Life..well, no one ever said it would be this hard:)
What is your favorite English song?
What do you make of the riots in the US?
Are your eyes okay?


The shops have opened up here, and India is getting closer and closer to the top of the virus victims list.

Sometimes music make me feel a bit matter but most of the time.its like fighting cancer with headache pills.
I dont know why-but my heart is always heavy.

I would say no to life a thousand times. A million times. I hate every bit of it.

Thanks for all the information.My corporation is worse than Kafkas worst nightmare. It wont let you live, but it wont let you die either.

Take care.

https://youtu.be/p1zrweVN4l4
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 08, 2020, 05:19:32 pm
Walter, all I want to do is sit on my ass and fart and think of Dante-Beckett
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: raul on June 08, 2020, 08:21:51 pm
Holden,

Thank you for your words. I have no favorite songs in English and in time I will have to go to the ophthalmologist. 

I think these riots in the USA have been well planned. Maybe a few care about this Floyd guy´s death but the others just want to create havoc.

The fact that President Trump is acting against, the WHO, China, the mass media, Obama, the Clintons, the Democrats, and the so-called Deep State/Industrial Military Complex and the so-called Antifa is a sign that there is brutal war among the elites. Whoever wins, Earth will be the prize. But this is only my opinion.  We still have a long way to go. I don´t know if I will be here to see future events.

As for the CCP virus the cases of infected people are growing. It is just a matter of time the virus hits me. This capital has 500,000 inhabitants and the Central Department around 1 million. Maybe I already caught the virus and I did not realize it yet. Maybe I am an asymptomatic. I hate these medical terms like flattening the curve, social distancing, stay at home,intelligent quarantine, etc.  You cannot enter a pharmacy, a public office, a supermarket, etc, without wearing a face mask. To the thugs in power we are already criminals. The police says that if you get infected it is your fault. Ffucc the police.

That is the problem, Holden, you have a heart while others have a clock in that place of the body.

Stay safe.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Holden on June 13, 2020, 05:29:38 am
Senor Raul,
"The world is nothing but a great desire to live, and a great dissatisfaction with living" - Heraclitus
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Broken Brains on June 22, 2020, 09:08:34 pm
This thread is worthy of a recap/bump:

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Quote from: Ibra
Senor Raul,
your acute observations are a joy to read.

Henry Kissinger is indeed an evil person. but evil always prevail, we ain't in a utopia. he had a Nobel peace prize in 1973 (talk about irony). I heard a joke a while ago, that president Obama holds the world record for the most children killed by a nobel peace prize winner.  ;D.  because his drone program that bombarded our brown people in middle east. obviously middle east has a fiery duo of religion and oil.

(2)
Quote from: Holden
I wish there were some kind of drug which would take my hunger away forever.


(3)
Quote from: raul
I read that some in the USA called Obama Bombama because he droned anyone and everyone, anywhere and everywhere. His skin is black but his heart is blacker if he has one. After all he was/is just a puppet.Others are pulling the strings. Some say he is the puppet of the Bilderbergers.

* In the Mic Crenshaw song, HELP ME, Mic refers to President O-bomb-ya, a man with a likeable personality who, nonetheless, rose through the ranks of power, and hence ... well, I am actually more afraid of criticizing Obombya than criticizing Trump.   I am not fond of being bullied by the right or the left.  The left does not get a free pass with me just because they are so disgustingly "politically correct" ...  Please do not mistaken my failure to align myself with one camp as evidence of some kind of loyalty to another.   

Why would anyone want to claim to be in charge of such a runaway train?


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Quote from: raul
But this population control is also aided by the drug companies. A Danish doctor, Peter Gotzsche, said that “the main reason we take so many drugs is that drug companies don’t sell drugs, they sell lies about drugs.” He also said that “patients don’t realise that, although their doctors may know a lot about diseases and human physiology and psychology, they know very, very little about drugs that hasn’t been carefully concocted and dressed up by the drug industry. Furthermore, they don’t know that their doctors may have self-serving motives for choosing certain drugs for them, or that many of the crimes committed by the drug industry wouldn’t be possible if doctors didn’t contribute to them.”


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Quote from: raul
The Russian and Italian mafia are babies in comparison to Big Pharma cartels.


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Quote from: Holden
Before Kant we lived in space and time. Now space and time lives in us.(Negative Philosophy).

*     In Parerga and Paralipomena, vol. I, "Fragments for the History of Philosophy," § 13:

Schopenhauer says of Kant's doctrine of the ideality of space and time: "Before Kant, it may be said, we were in time; now time is in us. In the first case, time is real and, like everything lying in time, we are consumed by it. In the second case, time is ideal; it lies within us."


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Quote from: Holden
In the US a lot of riots are taking place ,I hope Herr Hauser is safe.

I have been too influenced by the life and spoken words of the deceased Native John Trudell to believe that one can get very far going toe-to-toe with riot police.  This "Predator Class/Energy" is not in the least bit afraid of protestors and rioters.  Someone funds them, some make money off them (selling signs and paint), and such demonstrations pave the way for the "militarized police forces" to test out their toys [read: weapons designed for crowd control, such as the kind of sonic vibrations comparable to The Father's gadget in the Island of Dr. Moreau].

They fear a clear coherent thinking human being, someone like Senor Raul of Paraguay, perhaps ... Senor Raul has pointed out a few times at least that there are those paranoid control-freaks who might find our innocent philosophical inquiries more than a little annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9QVpLLDNo8


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Holden,
Thank you for introducing that Mike Posner and his song/performance of "I Took a Pill in Ibiza" --- Such authenticity is rare ... a very humble man who must have paid some dues to acquire that sensitive voice.   I would have trouble not sobbing singing such sad songs, really.   I can sing to the point that I feel it, and then I sob, and then laugh affectionately at myself for actually still having some heart left.


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Quote from: raul
The fact that President Trump is acting against the WHO, China, the mass media, Obama, the Clintons, the Democrats, and the so-called Deep State/Industrial Military Complex and the so-called Antifa is a sign that there is brutal war among the elites. Whoever wins, Earth will be the prize. But this is only my opinion.  We still have a long way to go. I don´t know if I will be here to see future events.

I greatly appreciate your piercing insights, Raul of Paraguay.


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[last but not least] Holden quoting Heraclitus:  "The world is nothing but a great desire to live, and a great dissatisfaction with living"

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May we find some kind of solace in the inevitability of our return to the Void.   :-\
I like to imagine that most of the hatreds that have been injected into our brains via cultural indoctrination might evaporate from the perspective of our very own death beds.
Title: Re: Population control
Post by: Ibra on June 28, 2020, 10:08:46 am
Senor raul,

the situation in Syria is as bleak as ever since a decade. in my family place, the people live by harvesting crops (Wheat mainly). the last month was a horror for people, thousands of hectares set on fire by "God know who" there are many forces in that place, for a starter USA and Russia , then Turkey, Iran and many proxies. it is the scorched earth 101. the famine is looming in whole country, people can't find bread and that a good environment to utilize people. Erdogan of Turkey for example, is hiring mercenary and send them abroad to fight in Libya as his pawns. teens aged 16 and above are being recruited.

I knew long ago it is the law of the jungle that govern the human race, but I didn't internalize it and seeped into my bones  until this week. morality, human rights, tolerance are just bullShit. we are just denying our animalism.

I keep coming back to this video to stay grounded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM0uvgHKZe8)

and look at those happy-go-lucky comments on youtube, People still don't realize their nature.
It is easy to virtue signal while enjoying the consequences of the their leader's actions.

I amazingly don't feel that self-righteous rage anymore, trying Mr. Holden technique of detachment. it is always been this way, it is only our turn this time  :)

note: we the poor eat flat bread here. what is the bread style there in Paraguay if I may ask.

(http://www.maureenabood.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Pita-bread-POST.jpg)

regards

Title: Re: Population control
Post by: raul on June 28, 2020, 02:45:07 pm
Ibra,

Thank you for your words. I hope you and your family are allright given the circumstances in your country.

In this country chipa is a donut - shaped bread. It is made with cassava, flour, lard and anise. We also have mbejú, cheese flat bread with butter. It is made with cassava or yucca starch/flour, cheese and bound with little milk. In our cold weather people eat mbeju with cocido (yerba mate tea) or coffee.

Here the Ministry of Agriculture is warning about plague of locusts in the countryside. I honestly expect the worst to happen. We are truly living in apocalyptic times. Every post I write in this board could be my last.

Indeed we are beasts. Here we have an expression, a mixture of Spanish and Guarni, mbareté, that means the law of the strong or law of the jungle. For Madeleine Albright, Erdogan and so many desk butcherers a human life is expendable or replaceable. Yes, I remembered this lady talking about the sanctions against Iraq. But Saddam could not care less about the children or the elderly. After all thousands and thousands of Iraqi and Iranians were massacred between 1980-1988 and during the Gulf War. In her view it was worth killing 500,000 Iraqi children. “We think the price is worth it, she said. This is peanuts she could have added. This reminds of Christine Lagarde, former IMF spokesman who said years ago that the elderly live too much and is a risk for global economy.

I remember this story, which I later got to know, was told by the ancient Greek fabulist Aesop. Aesop tells that a
scorpion and a frog met one day on the bank of a river, and the scorpion, unable to swim, asked the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asked, “How do I know you won’t sting me in the journey?” The scorpion answered, “Fool! If I sting you, we’ll both drown!” Satisfied, the frog allowed the scorpion to mount his back, and the two set out across the water. But halfway to the other shore, the scorpion leapt out and stung the frog. The frog, sensing the poison course through him, gasped, “Why in the world did you do that?” The scorpion shrugged and said, “It’s not my fault. It’s just my nature.”

That is the problem, Ibra, a few human beings will acknowledge the misery of the human condition. We or at least most behave like the frog. We will never admit that we are demonic beings.

Take care.