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Re: Physics of River Channels
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2017, 08:27:03 am »
Herr Holden,
Thank you for your response. I hope you recover from your health problems. I suppose that virus is not enough to terminate the existence. I suffer from sinusitis and my brain suffers from my addiction to alcohol. Yes, I saw the Purge. But humans have been carrying out the Purge since the beginning of time. the annihilation commanded by God against the peoples in order to get the Promised Land for the chosen people. Remember the massacres against the indigenous population in the Americas, genocides in Congo by Leopold the Belgian King, the Spanish genocide in Cuba, the genocide against the hereros and Namas by the Germans with the Kaiser Wilhelm, the Ottoman genocide against the Armenians,massaces in the American West,the genocides against the Philipino guerrillas carried out by US troops from 1902-1909, the Boer War, World War I and World War II. Endless purges, Herr Holden, crime has always been legal, so we are a suicidal species. Humans like to shed blood. Stay safe. Raúl

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Homo Rapiens
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2017, 03:21:07 pm »
Our true name is Homo Rapiens.There are some loony-leftist primitive anarchists who would like to take us back to the "good old days" by destroying all technology. The call themselves the neo-luddites.  No,Senor Raul,there is no going back now.
The idea that primitive hunter-gatherers lived in harmony with the landscape has long been challenged by researchers, who say Stone Age humans in fact wiped out many animal species in places as varied as the mountains of New Zealand and the plains of North America.
Homo rapiens will not cease to be predatory and destructive.Human history is a succession of catastrophes and occasional lapses into peace and civilisation.

There are many here who would like to ape the Western Enlightenment Project.The Western Enlightenment, the crucible of universalist, rationalist aspirations,  neither emancipated humanity from religious myths, nor overthrew divine subservience in favour of a sovereign humanity. It simply substituted the terms of the old myth for those of the new secular one. Where God once was, so humanity shall be; where salvation once loomed, now stands the ideal form of human society, not to be redeemed by God but governed by the universal aspirations of human reason.

Left, Revolution, Proletariat, these fashionable concepts are the latter-day counterparts of the great myths which once inspired political optimism: Progress, Reason, the People.
Crowded world choked with noise and filth  will not only lead to ecological collapse but will deny the human need for solitude and wilderness. Population growth can justly be called the monster on the land.

My compatriots like to think that technology is the answer. We are the IT Superpower ::) Such technological hubris  is objectionable, in the first place, because of its overestimation of human inventiveness and its underestimation of the fragility of any natural or Gaian order that has a place in it for humans. It is to be resisted, secondly, because, even if human technology had the virtuosity attributed to it by these forms of Positivism and scientism, human institutions would break down long before technology could develop to such levels of virtuosity, or be applied in practice.

The horror, the horror!

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Re: Physics of River Channels
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2017, 09:40:30 pm »
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Remember the massacres against the indigenous population in the Americas ...

It is no coincidence that during my mental/emotional collapse (nervous breakdown) when I was 17, remembering these massacres was causing me great distress.

I am not proud to say I try not to think too much about these massacres, but I see what our world has become.  I try to focus on studying mathematics now, but on some level I am already resigned to blocking out the nightmare.

I do not glorify traditional indigenous cultures anymore, but we witness the polluted waters and the epidemics of madness all around us.

I drank with a native out West in the Seattle area when I was homeless.  I would tell him about Schopenhauer and he would jokingly call me an "idiot".

We would sing songs with a boom box while drinking in the bushes until the police came in to harass us.  We asked the cops, "Where are we supposed to drink?  We're homeless!"

Raul, I think that I may repress many thoughts as a way to maintain some kind of composure.   In other words, to a certain extent, I must block out reality just to maintain whatever sanity or mental concentration I can muster.  I just try to get through each day without having some kind of "episode."

At this point, I'm just trying to keep my head and my life together.
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Re: Physics of River Channels
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2017, 09:18:46 am »
Herr Raskolnikov,
Thank you for yours words. I hope your father gets better. When one is over seventy-five years old, complications in health may come up at any time. My father, as you say there, is a workaholic. That´s the reason he is admired by his brothers, my cousins, colleagues and most of the acquaintances. Of they don´t know or they they dont´t want to know that he was abusive and violent with my mother, me and my sister. I remember once when we were little my sister and I were playing with scissors so he punished us by sending us to the hairdresser where both of us got a "jarhead" as you say there.Once he threatened with a knife and so I tore up my shirt and told him to go ahead.  That´s the reason I am also violent. I try to repress my homicidal impulses just because I do not want to go to Tacumbu (state prison).

When I mention the massacres in world history is that we,here, in primary school and secondary school are not taught about the cruelty of humans. This planet is soaked in blood. But of course we have been designed to inflict pain on our fellow human beings and the environment. Once again, Hentrich, thank your reading my comments. Stay well. Raúl

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2017, 10:57:24 am »
It is a great benefit to develop our psychological insight into our violent tendencies.

This is why I abstain from alcohol as I tend to engage in bizarre behavior, going into rages.   My father only drinks a little beer since hard liquor also has this effect on him, where he might attack someone with a led pipe.   

So, we want to stay out of those prisons.  Only psychological insight into how we are wired can help us take our volatile tendencies seriously.

I once wrote a paper in an anthropology class based on a book called "Demonic Males".

The theme is that we inherent these tendencies from chimpanzees.  Holden once showed a video here, with gorillas, I think, where one individual was beaten to death by the group just for being an oddball.   It is not just our species that is fuucked up.

This is why Schopenhauer says that this world appears to have been created by a blind demon.

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Re: Physics of River Channels
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2017, 10:31:46 am »
Herr Hentrich,
Thank you for your comments. Yes, Demonic males is a very appropriate for us. Demonic indeed. Demonic is our situation. We know our fate and we know we are in an extermination camp called Planet Earth. Death is what awaits us. When we realize the madness we are in; we become problem slaves. We come into this trap and through pleasure with sex we continue here. We come with pleasure sensors in the bodies. When one is young and you see women with attractive bodies we go mad. We do not realize we follow our genetic programming. No choice and no free will. Biological machines, yes, that´s what we are. After all we,males, are designed to have sex with genitals designed to urinate. A little disgusting when one is able to see our bodies with cold eyes. Once  I told a woman that she enjoys two dicks, one with the **** that comes out and with the dick that comes in. In and out. Out and in. Like pistons and valves. Once again thank you for reading my words. Stay safe. Raúl 

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Problem Slaves
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2017, 05:21:00 pm »
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When we realize the madness we are in; we become problem slaves.

What is one to do after becoming a problem slave?  Have you ever witnessed how the slave mentality is enforced within families?  There are some families I do not think I would have survived my teenage years in.  It's amazing that suicide is not an even more common practice. 

Could this conflict between those who question the madness and those who defend or enforce the madness be the reason why we can have deeper conversations on a message board on the Internet than we can while sharing meals with family members?  With family and most of society, we have to keep things superficial.

Our deepest thoughts we keep to ourselves.  The "conspiracy against the human race" is this tendency for the conventional, well-adjusted, the most acclimated to the way things are to be in positions of authority over those who question existence itself to the dregs.  There is this tendency of social creatures to absorb passively the culture, mores and behaviors of society without analyzing them.   They go on to have children and to impose their views on their children.  If the children revolt, perhaps they are punished by being "rejected" by their parents.  While the adult child may come to view this rejection as a terrible thing, there is no other way it could turn out for the problem slave.   To be accepted by the parents, who demand obedience at the expense of critical analysis, is not in the adult child's best interest.



Maybe that's why I prefer math books over society.  There's only so much we can discuss before an argument ensues.  Like so many others, I'm just trying to get through it.  When I find someone's views to be oppressive, rather than allowing my energies to be drained by hating them, I short-circuit the process simply by thanking my lucky stars I was not born as their child at their mercy.

Have you ever noticed the sick pleasure some people in positions of authority take when they have the unconventional at their mercy?


We say life is absurd and that there is no purpose.  Life is difficult.  When we come to have a grim view of life, we learn to just keep our thoughts to ourselves.  I do not say out loud, "Nobody chooses to be born" because I don't want to hear someone tell me life is a "gift from God."

Addition, subtraction, multiplication, division ... these operations follow a definite logic; but we cannot demand that life be logical or rational. 

Maybe when we figure some things out in our heads we become unfit for polite society, and so we must wear a mask so that we avoid confrontations. 

Every individual has psychological issues, most likely from the trauma of having been born in the first place. 

It is a relief that we are not obligated to believe in anyone's god.  We do not have to worship a god just because our mother and sister worship that god.  We do not have to apologize for not paying homage.   

When we choose to think independently, then we cannot allow ourselves to bemoan the fact that we are left alone or rejected by society.  When you think about it, it is we ourselves who have rejected polite society and their values. 

Still, I try to get along ... When with my sister and her husband, I try not to discuss how abandoned my nephew feels.  I no longer want to be involved.  It's enough that I don't have any children, that I have spilled the demon seeds down the drain throughout my life, and that whatever seeds are left are drying up.  Good riddens.  I am getting through this life without imposing it on another. 

Maybe it is best that we remain superficial and shallow when with family and others in society.   It causes less grief for us to keep our real feelings about life to ourselves. 

If I can be content working through a handful of math books for ten years, then that will be another stretch of time I will have made it through without feeling compelled to look for some kind of "meaningful relationship" or "fulfilling employment".  I am not looking for a god to save me.  I am not entertaining any fantasies about living in some kind of commune out in the woods with primitive-anarchists.  No, I suspect I don't really like people, that I am not at all enthusiastic about being alive.

So, my drug of choice is mathematics.  Emotional independence is what I am after. 

Living rational in an irrational world is not rational, but I am for acknowledging the absurd situation we have been born into and just getting though it without expecting much from the whole "thing".

You know, as each day passes in this life, I am less and less inclined to give anyone any advice in how to get through this life.   I would not even suggest someone to abstain from alcohol, for I fully acknowledge that I "needed" every drink I consumed, and I appreciated every puff of herb I inhaled.  I just know that studying math is the safest drug for me at this time for me.

I call it a drug because that is the kind of approach I want to take - an antisocial, anti-productive (nonproductive?  indifferent to the whole concept of "productivity"), somewhat deviant approach.   I want to think about math because I feel I have thought enough about life, and that I may have figured life out well enough to be quite prepared to do my part in becoming extinct as a species.   I don't want to get caught up in family drama.  I don't want to get caught up in national drama, racial drama, religious drama, romantic drama, etc.

I want to just be cool with not giving a shiit.  Indifference?  Apathy?  Maybe.  I see people get worked up about their gods and their religions, and they speak as though they know the nature of this universe.  I don't want to be like that at all.  I want to realize that we are unable to know something that we are inside of.  The head is in the universe and the universe is in our heads, and it's all so unspeakably absurd. 

Why should I care about how to go about proving a simple theorem?   Well, it takes my mind off the drama and tragedy of existence.  In the end, it's a distraction which relieves the mind of anxiety, worry, grief, sorrow, boredom. 

Many people clamor for political and economic independence.  Wouldn't mental and emotional independence be the real treasure?  And yet, I surely am dependent upon money for shelter and groceries, among other things, so I can't boast of being truly independent.

Maybe the best thing we can hope for is to care less and less about what goes on in other people's heads.  It's hard to judge anyone for doing what they do to get through life, so I generally try to just leave people alone since I want to be left alone.  That's the golden rule, right?  Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?  You are them.  I am you and you are me.  We are the cow in the slaughterhouse?   

In a very real sense we are each very alone in this life.  We might as well find out ways to enjoy our own company.  For me it is studying math.  At other times it was drinking alcohol and talking to myself.  I was still enjoying my own company and did not pine away to be with others.  I knew I wasn't missing out on anything. 

Sometimes I feel like I write nonsense.  In Crime and Punishment, one of Dostoevsky's characters says, “What do you think?” shouted Razumikhin, louder than ever, “you think I am attacking them for talking nonsense? Not a bit! I like them to talk nonsense. That’s man’s one privilege over all creation. Through error you come to the truth! I am a man, therefore I talk nonsense! You never reach any truth without making fourteen mistakes and very likely a hundred and fourteen. And a fine thing, too, in its way; but we can’t even make mistakes on our own account! Talk nonsense, but talk your own nonsense, and I’ll kiss you for it. To go wrong in one’s own way is better than to go right in someone else’s. In the first case you are a man, in the second you’re no better than a parrot. Truth won’t escape you, but life can be fenced in and cramped.”

I talk a whole lot of nonsense but see myself as an honest man because I face the possibility that I might be full of shiit.
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Re: Physics of River Channels
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2017, 11:27:10 am »
Herr Hentrich,
Today is holiday here. It is "Día de la Madre" or Mother´s Day and Independence Day from Spain. Three days ago a woman told me that Mother´s Day is very important for her because her mother gave her "the gift of life". What a gift!

As usual thank you for your words. Your thoughts are certainly very profound. Too much disturbing. Yes, sometimes I think that the one million suicides that happen every year is surprising. I suppose there should be more when one considers the tragedy of this universe. In this kingdom of absolute pain and horror, we are all comrades in death. As you say we keep things superficial to family and most of society. "this tendency for the conventional, well-adjusted, the most acclimated to the way things are to be in positions of authority" is proof enough that they are psychopaths. From my point of view can one adjust to this madness when there are wars, epidemics, manufactured economic crisis, old people sleeping on the streets,etc.?

Now I realize how deeply insane we are when we see here women selling sex, like selling bread in the red area, not far from the churches and the government
palace. We have grown accustomed to this madness. If I am ever asked what I would change about humanity, my answer would be to return to the past, deep past and have Adam and Eve beheaded. No humanity, no pain, no horror, no nothing. But the demonic creators thought otherwise. So humans are here disturbing nature, destroying everything on their way. I don´t remember the name of the aborigine tribe in Australia. This country became the dumping ground for England´s criminals and political prisoners and when they arrived there they began massacring the aborigines. So these aborigines,tired of being abused, decided to extinguish themselves. Brave people. Take care of yourself. Raúl

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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2017, 04:05:59 am »
I think that the one million suicides that happen every year is surprising.
With regard to a controversial matter like suicide,there is bound to be massive under-reporting & false reporting.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2017, 08:24:08 am »
Herr Holden,
Yes, here when I listen to Paraguayan radio stations when the police reports the lists of dead people every week the police PR feels very uncomfortable in reporting the suicides. Always the same crap about the need to consult with psychologists, doctors and family members. They don´t want to accept that this world is a prison, a human farm where we are treated like cows being led to the slaughterhouse. Well, we treat the cows, sheep, goats, pigs, the whole environment the same way. There is no way the thugs will ever accept that. Once you accept this planet is a madhouse, the world you thought you knew, everything collapses. For self-preservation I have put my conscience in the freezer. The little conscience I have. Stay safe. Raúl

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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2017, 04:00:55 am »
You are absolutely right about it:we are demons.This planet is HELL where the damned souls are sent to suffer & tear themselves apart.I cannot make sense of anything. Not one thing. It all appears so meaningless and full of pain & suffering to me.I don't know how long I need to put up with all this mindless suffering.

Yes,you are right- we are demons. I am a demon.


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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2017, 10:52:44 am »
You have to keep the demons occupied.  I feed the demons mathematics.  It is the curly string.

There are several versions of the folktale in which a demon is defeated because he cannot straighten a curly hair.

Straightening a Curly Hair

The one from Germany is known as Tricking the Devil.

In a way, am I not doing the same thing by lining shelves with mathematics textbooks which contain exercises to keep "me" busy for the remainder of my existence, as long as I have access to them?

And so what is it I have given this task to?   The brain?  What part of the brain?

Tell me what part of the brain that I am keeping occupied with the mathematics exercises in these textbooks, and I think we might zero in on what exactly our ancestors meant with their folktales about demons and "the Devil".  I have it seeking satisfaction elsewhere.  It could just as easily be distracted by far more destructive pastimes.

These so-called demons, or the Devil even, what exactly does this represent?

I find the conversation in the following clip from one of the film renditions of HG Wells's The Island of Dr Moreau gives us another clue.  See around the 6:00 minute mark:



Some research:

Each of us humans has Baphomet or a hidden "God Amon" that sits in the middle of the brain that is part of the temporal lobe called the Ammon’s horn (Amuns Horn), also known as the hippocampus. In neuroanatomy, Ammon’s Horn is a metaphor that relates to the gods and the brain.

This region of the brain is associated with long-term memory storage and the hippocampal neurons known as place cells that play a major role in causing the sensation of familiarity known as déjà vu and reincarnation. It is said that when a small subset of our hippocampal neurons dies and is reborn; the mind is in a constant state of reincarnation.

Plato held in his beliefs that education was not new learned information, but a real memory of events that took place in a previous life. Platonic epistemology holds that knowledge is innate, so that learning is the development of ideas ... Thus, when something is "learned" it is actually just "recalled."


Who knows?  Do you think anyone actually knows what they are talking about?  Don't we just speculate? 

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Re: Physics of River Channels
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2017, 12:03:23 pm »
Herr Holden,
Yes, we come to this world with something rotten inside. We are prisoners with no right to open the door and run away; Maybe you can understand this mystery. Yes,  I think you and Hentrich have something to say about this tragic topic. I am starting to think the  demonic gods are the guardians, and that we men are  their possession. Many years ago I read something about the Cathars or the Pure Ones, slaughtered by the Pope´s forces in their so called crusades in Languedoc between 1209 and 1244. The author said the Cathars believed that some sort of "deputy" of God, the Demiurge, created this evil world. That all matter and flesh was evi and that procreation should not be encouraged. I am sure you and Holden know more about the Cathars. Take care of yourself. Raúl   

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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2017, 04:10:17 am »
“The world is a prison in which solitary confinement is preferable.”
― Karl Kraus

If the world indeed is hell or a prison ,then ,we must constantly keep in mind that we are here because we are sinful.
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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2017, 03:09:55 pm »
What is meant by the word "sin"?

What does this mean, to remember that we are sinful?

Guilt, sin, and blame ... If there is such a thing as sin, is this connected to the idea of karma?
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