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raul

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2020, 06:29:12 am »
Holden,

You said that you “see no glory in dragging and feeding ones body.No glory whatsoever.Not now,not ever.”
The Will to life is alive and kicking.I have been dragging and feeding and medicating my body. I wish I could die peacefully in my sleep but I think that is not going to happen.

Take care.

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2020, 11:08:08 am »
To Senor Raul,

“This world is a veil. And the face you wear is not your own.”

——True Detective:
Season 1 (2014)

Take care.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
-van Gogh.

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2020, 07:56:50 am »
Senor Raul,

Sometimes the price you pay for being emotionally sensitive and intelligent...

Is suicide.

Take care.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2020, 11:48:08 am »
“I never learned how to exist.”

Fernando Pessoa,

The Book of Disquiet
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Holden

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2020, 01:56:21 am »
“there is something disturbing going on in the basement of our cozy middle-class world” - Gordon Marino.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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raul

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2020, 05:06:11 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for sharing these quotes. They are very enlightening. At this moment I have no quote to share here. As I said I wish I could die in my sleep. Sometimes I feel that my bodily existence will cease to exist anytime.

But I am a slave to the dictation of this container called body that is getting sick, then it will  rot and turn to ashes. We are human puppets in this slaughterhouse. Someone said to my sister that I need a girlfriend. That´s the recipe I got several times.

What is it that I will share with a lady? Miseries, financial needs and worries, anguish and pain, and to what end? Just to avoid bitterness, solitude and anxiety.

Stay safe.

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2020, 03:27:15 am »
Senor Raul,
Have you seen any UFOs in the Paraguayan skies?Thanks.
If you don't mind my asking -when your parents were around , especially your mother, did they play the matchmaker for you?In India, that's very common.

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2020, 12:51:53 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for your response. No, my mother did not play any matchmaking but she insisted that specially my sister marry a suitable candidate. Wedding is the recipe that most give you here, there and everywhere. What most offer you are chains.

Unfortunately the Paraguayan skies are filled with polluted air. Not even a decent UFO would like to fly here.
No, I have not seen any UFOS personally. I have only seen UFOS in documentaries. The one I remember was about the Rockwell incident in 1947 and the Skin Walker Ranch in a place called Ballard, Utah. It has been linked to UFO-related activities.I also watched a movie about the Mothman prophecies based on a book by John Keel many years ago. I also watched this film Encounters of the Third Kind many years ago.

I read that in 1952 or 1954 U.S. President Dwight David Eisenhower had a meeting with extraterrestrials at Holloman Air Force Base, New Mexico. It was said that he had meetings with these creatures at least 3 times with Nordic appearing, blue eyed creatures. I think they looked like Hentrich. :D. It is said that Eisenhower wanted a treaty with them but he refused to agree to their demand that the U.S. army cease testing nuclear weapons. I also watched some documentaries about the Men In Black (MIB) who are also related to UFO activities. 

In the Gnostic view, most human beings are hylics or wooden heads, bereft of any real spirit. Others are psychical or soulish ones. Only a few possess the original divine sparks or soul. Yes, I suppose I am one of the wooden heads.

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2020, 01:27:24 pm »


Senor Raul,

Any one briefly acquainted with the history of  German thought would know that Schopenhauer was par excellance. He lived alone in Frankfurt ,taking walks,,writing, taking his meals in the English cafe,attending operas in the evening.During his age I am not sure if any other philosopher of note lived in his city. In his thought he was very far away from his contemperory Hegelians who were obsessed with History and did their best to turn History itself into Philosophy.Schopenhauer would have nothing to do with it.

It is especially germane to remember that Schopenhauer knew and appreciated scientific discoveries and technologies advancements taking place all around him much more than his philosophical optimistic  antagonists. He would have nothing to do with History as philosophy and would never look forward to Singularity.He stood alone against the mob of Hegelians and later,the Marxists and the socialists of every stripe.

The Marxists in their journals, when they do write about him, describe him as the very definition of a bourgeois reactionary. While like the Marxists, I and Schopenhauer,read history, too, we,unlike them, see only chaos and human misery in it and not any kind of moral progress. We see no telos.
I can imagine Schopenhauer,on a Sunday afternoon, in his house ,alone,writing in his journal against the Hegelians, against the Marxists.

Unlike Marx ,who latter,in his life looked rather fat and with paunch around his belly, Schopenhauer with his daily walks, would remain slim till his seventies. I can not see his gorging on anything except perhaps on salad.

The Marxists and the socialists with their highfalutin jargon and their endless economic analysis will never reach the truth. Not in Schopenhauers time, not now, not ever.
It is sad and a true disgrace that the very city where Schopenhauer once wrote and contemplated ,in the 1920s gave birth to the aborted fetus called the Frankfurt School.

They,like the most fashionable philosophers, would have Marx as their reigning deity. How many societies the world over are dedicated to propagate his thought-hundreds ,if not thousands and that of Schopenhauer?

These folks, the member of the Frankfurt School,would go on to write about why the working class Germans wanted everything under the Sun but their beloved communism. Why they would pay to attend Hitlers mass rallies. I have come to realise that Hitler,unbeknownst to himself, had come to personify Will to Live of the German nation.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
-van Gogh.

raul

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2020, 04:21:59 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for your comments. They are very enlightening. At the moment of writing my response the heat is unbearable and yesterday the Minister of Health told us that there is a confirmed case of coronavirus. What a beautiful world! So who knows?

This could be one of my last comments before the virus takes me. In Spanish we have an expression “mala hierba nunca muere” or a bad weed never die. This expression could be applied to me.

Death reminds me of Ixtab, the Mayan goddess of suicide. She was represented as a dead woman with a rope around her neck. Her duty also was to accompany the suicides to heaven. I suppose many must have taken their lives in her honor. I remember reading about those Japanese commanders who committed ritual suicide or hara-kiri. Emperor Hirohito is the one who should have killed himself after Japan surrendered in 1945.

I know very little about Karl Marx.  I once read a book by British Paul Johnson many years ago about him. I read that Banker Nathan Rotschild financed Marx when he was part of a group called the League of Just Men.  The originals of the cheques for him can be found in the British Museum. Others wrote that Marx was Rothschild´s cousin and that he worked as a police agent for the Prussian regime.  It is said that he hated Russia for being the last stronghold of Christianity. I wonder if Lenin and Trotsky knew about this. Marx´s Jewish name, I read, is Chaim Hirschel Mordechai.

I found this quote: “The chief mission of all other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust.” One of his poems goes like this:

With Satan I have struck a deal,
He chalks the signs, beats time for me
I play the death march fast and free.

Take care.
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Re: Lust for Life [gloomy sunday]
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2021, 11:06:17 am »
Billie Holiday version of "Gloomy Sunday"

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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2022, 10:59:04 pm »
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Senor Raul,

Sometimes the price you pay for being emotionally sensitive and intelligent...

Is suicide.

Take care.

profound !  I wish we lived in the type of world where a "couple" could read "Lust for Life" out loud together to each other, but such is not the case.  No, and again, No!



Do you think that sex lubricates?   I mean, did Van Gogh have unmet primitive needs or what ?!  I find it very comforting to lay next to a woman.  And yet, exciting the passions can create havoc in one's life.  It's just all so unreal.  I am feeling tender and angry at the same time.   Mad laughter and sobbing and just doing my time in this penal colony of existence like the so-called "Drunken Indian".



I am going through changes.

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Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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