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Lust for Life
« on: February 10, 2020, 06:45:28 am »
Herr Hentrich,

Thank you for your words. I don´t know what I would do if I had Russel´s egg in my hand. It would be a huge temptation to crush it.

Only those who are concerned with questions of the meaning of human existence ask themselves this kind of questions. What does this mean? It means that you, Holden, Silenus, Ibra, and anyone reading this blog are freaks.

You are right. At this moment nobody would be booking any cruises to China anytime soon were Vonnegut in the flesh. I would not suggest anyone to book flights to this country because he/she might get dengue, zika, chikungunya or influenza. On Friday the First Lady got dengue. Will she go to the overcrowded public hospitals? No, she won´t. The government is lying about the number of deaths caused by the dengue virus. 

Drive safely.

You and others may find this scene from Lust for Life with Kirk Douglas and James Donald.



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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2020, 04:15:45 pm »
That scene made me slightly teary-eyed.  See what a sentimental fool I can be.

I see all the Van Goghs suicided by society, but maybe there is just no fitting round pegs into square holes.   Maybe our failure to fit in or find a place in this world is our greatest success.   Lots of contradictions, paradoxes, and even nonsense.

From one moment to the next, our entire universe can transform.  We are maybe dimly aware of the creepiness of our own bones and blood.   When we die, our bodies rot and decompose.  Maybe there is even an in between realm where we are alive but as good as dead, or someone we love deeply is in such a state, and thier body fermenting.  I am ashamed when the odors of death repel me.  Then I witness the vanity of existence, and I must think against myself; that is, I see how sensitive and maybe even how shallow this thing I call "love" is.   It kind of shames me that I allow myself to be freaked out by Life.
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2020, 06:13:54 am »
Hentrich,

I am glad that you can be a sentimental fool, as you say, because I am no longer sentimental or emotional. The will to live is very strong. That is the reason I am still around here. I find extremely scary that most find this horror called life wonderful.

As you say when we die our bodies rot and decompose. Here students in the School of Medicine, even fight one another to get a fresh dead body for their studies. I may end up as meat for their experiments. Life is horrendous.

On your birthday I can only suggest that you drive carefully and safely.

Stay well.

P.S. You and others may find this article interesting:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/skoptsy
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2020, 04:00:17 pm »
Actually, I'm not very sentimental either.   Usually too "ready to explode in rage" to even sit through half a film.

I don't celebrate birth, but mourn it.   One must accept wishes gracefully lest snap.   People just want to say "this that the other thing" but few care to hear how you actually feel at the moment, which is indescribable.    It is a ridiculous life, more pathetic than tragic.
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To Dear Senor Raul
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 07:00:44 am »
To,
Senor Raul,

“The feelings of our heart, the agitation of our passions, the vehemence of our affections, dissipate all [of reason’s] conclusions, and reduce the profound philosopher to a mere plebeian.” — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding.
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 09:54:12 am »
Yes, Holden, the futility of our animalistic drives are behind every philosophical proposition, whether through the resignation of a pessimism or an attempt to "transcend" by way of system-building or starry-eyed optimism. This alone should shatter the dualism of "body & mind."
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 02:40:07 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for sharing Hume´s quote. At this moment the only quotes I can share are first from someone who said these words: “You want peace? Do not exist.”

The other is from a famous U.S. publisher. Many years ago I watched a film called The People vs. Larry Flynt.  He is the publisher of a famous magazine called Hustler. He said the following words:

“Moses freed the Jews. Lincoln freed the slaves. I freed the neurotics.”

Stay alert.
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 12:24:53 pm »
To Senor Raul,

“but most things people do are a total grind, marriage, birth, children, it’s something they HAVE to do because they have nothing else to do. There is no glory in it, no esteem, no fire, their lives are flat and the earth is full of them.”
Charles Bukowski
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 01:18:22 pm »
Senor Raul,



In this clip,the deceased daughter is brought back to life for the mother.It is one of the saddest things I have seen.

Many antinatalists blame the parents and yet the mother in the clip is as much a victim as the daughter.

We are in a place where souls get eaten.
My right lung is acting up again and has been causing me pain.Lungs are really sensitive organs.Corona virus attacks the lungs too.I think the youngest of the Bronte sisters,the quiet one,died of a lung ailment too.

I keep remembering the day ,about 2 months ,back when I was puking out everything ,my pillow was drenched in my sputum.Time is passing by,killing me slowly,one second at a time.

There are three things that have saved me from the most henious sin of all-that of being a father- my almost preternatural introversion,the skewed gender ratio in the country and the fact that,I see the decay in the midst of the all the faux glamour.

I don't get along with anyone,women or men.I hardly get along with myself.

Time is passing by.Time is , willy-nilly,taking me along.

Take care and a happy valentine's day to you :)


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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 02:15:42 pm »
Holden,

Thank you again for your response. Also Happy Valentine´s Day to you. (Hahaha). Yesterday I saw street vendors selling flowers. I hope they sell their flowers so that a little money comes in to their pockets.

Thank you again for Bukowski´s quotes and the clip. Bukowski´s quote is worth reading many times. Indeed as Bukowski says their lives are flat and the earth is full of them. Once I told my sister that most have round heads only when they go to a soccer match.

I read about the clip in Spanish. It is really sad. It reminds me of a movie I saw many years ago about Harry Houdini, the famous illusionist, who wanted to get in touch with his deceased mother. He found out that these so-called séances were a fraud.

I can only suggest that you take care of yourself as much as you can. Some call this tragedy, ie., Coronavirus/Covid-19 the Chinese Chernobyl remembering what happened in the nuclear plant in Ukraine in 1986. Others say the Chinese government is unable to contain it and in time the virus will go pandemic. 

Today very early in the morning I went to a clinic. I thought I had the symptons of dengue. The hospital was overcrowded. The doctor talked to me only for five minutes. The cause is that I am allergic to reppelents. I must take paracetamol and chlorphenamine. I read that chlorphenamine is linked to Alzheimer´s disease.I saw a lot of parents, children and specially the elderly suffering much pain.

As you say time is passing by, killing us every single second.

Stay safe.
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2020, 02:28:36 pm »
Senor Raul,
This is for you:
By Beckett-
My dear Pamela, I was worrying and it was a relief to get your letter to-day and to know you were out of hospital and well enough at least to smoke, drink and feel an aversion to work. [25.11.53]

In the mean time Mr.Gary seems to have disappeared.Last he made a video was about 3 months back.
He does not like to leave his house.In his old house he used to walk in the nearby woods and now I think he just hides.

Maybe he is busy thinking about physics.And the absurdity of life.In the old videos he looks strong but in the latest ones weak and frail.

His soul is tortured.He has suffered a lot and life has left it's marks on him.
Hope is okay.
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 02:32:40 pm »
Tears flow down my cheeks, without any apparent reason, just like I continue to draw breath without any reason.
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2020, 05:31:29 am »
the entire cosmos
for no reason whatsoever
all of mathematics for no reason
all language and all communication for naught

it's all in vain
maybe the more serious ought to rejoice
that all this trouble is for no reason

is the seriousness and urgency about our existential dilemma
conflated?

If there is no reason for our existence, why are we not shocked to find ourselves still alive?   Maybe we do not have to try so hard.   The void awaits us all, and none of us will be remembered for long, not Schopenhauer, not even the Upanishads ... I mean, our species will be a memory in the mind of no one, as though it had never existed.   

we and all our concerns are unnecessary
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Re: Lust for Life
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 06:42:34 am »
Holden,

Using your words about Mr.Gary our souls have been tortured since we left our mothers´wombs. We have been suffering a lot and life has left marks on us. We, humans, are the blood bank and vampires are in charge.

I am mentally and physically weak.  Do I, in people´s opinion, deserve to be sent to the psychiatric hospital? Yes but I would not want to be there because it is only a warehouse. 

Most want to be with people full of life; so they say. They want to be with someone smiling while his/her leg is being amputated. Long live life!

Take care wherever you go.
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Rhizomes
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2020, 01:53:59 pm »
Dear Senor Raul,

Deleuze writes a great deal about rhizomes.The conventional script says that I should get married,have kids,look for the next promotion,buy a car.But I like to read about Ahabs obsession with Moby Dick the whale,I like to do my own kind of maths.
The definition of the gort society-the society obsessed with channeling the sem-en stream into a vag-ina instead of allowing it to fall sterile to the ground.

While I agree with Deleuze that one should try to look for rhizomes instead of being a part of the conventional tree,where I disagree,vehemently, is his apparent optimism that rhizomes,might,in the long term overcome the tree.
In the Indian society,one of the first things they ask you is -how many kids have you got?
What if I were to answer the question with the description of the different types of equations I can comprehend.
Think about it-Schopenhauer was not expressly looking for dismal career as an academician nor was Van Gogh actively seeking failure as an artist,and yet these two things had to happen inexorably,there is no rhizome,no matter how complex or intricate,which could have turned Schopenhauer into a successful lecturer and Van gogh into a successful painter,failure,worldly failure,was writ large in their very DNA.

Who knows,maybe,the failure,which the common man so despises,might not be the real success.Maybe nothing succeeds like failure?One must have a stout heart like that of Schopenhauer to withstand failure after failure,humiliation after humiliation and yet who could say with certainly that Schopenhauer himself did not go to bed every night with death-wish on his lips?

Take care.
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