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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2020, 02:13:57 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for your response. The government is tightening the measures. The military and the police are in the streets enforcing this so-called curfew. Those in power are safe and secure in their mansions.

I heard that many private companies are dismissing many employees. Those who work informally will suffer much. It is the beginning of the end.

I have nowhere to go and if I had I am jobless and being jobless here means being out of the system.  If the virus gets to me I hope to leave this world fast. I don´t want even my sister to help me or come near me. She would be in much danger.

I have no project here. I won´t miss this world and either way.

Once I read in the Gospel of the Egyptians the following words:

“The Lord said to Salome when she inquired: How long shall death prevail? As long as ye women bear children.”

I am not Hegel, just a scribbler but unfortunately I will follow his steps.

Take care of yourself.

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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2020, 08:20:25 pm »
Raul,

I think you have a practical grasp of the dynamics of our vulnerable predicament as organisms, and that your sense of humor, even if bitter or morbid, is a kind of secret power at your service which will "talk you through" whatever processes your organism must endure.  This is the story we can't write, our own living experience.

On the abstract level, I have much contempt and disdain for our species.  Many of us are horrified by the similarities between our species and lower lifeforms such as cockroaches:  feeding , fuchking, and fighting ... On a subjective level, we are each destined to witness the decay of our animal body.  The only one who can talk you through this is you, and I am sure you will be reaping the harvest for having reflected so truthfully and fearlessly on the miserable nature of life itself.

We may be fortunate to have a couple people on this earth who will sincerely miss our presence.

If anyone just stops communicating here, we can only assume the worse.  My nephew might have the sense to contact Holden in my case, but I doubt we will be informed should Holden pass - and I am fairly certain no one will be sending us word from Paraguay should you, Senor Raul, disintegrate into thin air ...

Maybe this global emergency might give everyone a temporary reprieve from the Business-as-Usual world.  Upon witnessing the reactions of other human beings, my own honest internal reactions appear to be "inappropriate."   If one laughs, we are accused of not taking the matter seriously enough.  And yet, what if one is inspired by just how quickly "all the rules change" to suit the current, ever changing narrative of the "historians."

Whatever the nature of our lives is, we grapple with this inside our own heads, in our breathing body.  Now may be a good time to re-read one's favorite works ... an opportunity to reflect on the tragic stupidity of some of the more arrogant members of our species.   They will mourn the closing of their sports arenas and concert halls, their bars and clubs, their churches, mosques, synagogues, AA meetings, etc ... their "schools" ... and even their new State operated Marijuana Distribution Centers ...

The military will be called in to enforce "law and order" ...

Madmen like us, we poor prophets of doom just might survive the damn thing.   Either way, I, for one, am prepared to wash my a-s-s in the bath tub; whereas the ladies may be addicted to toilet paper.  As I said, there are so many in denial of the miserable nature of their very own lives.  That denial will be difficult for them to maintain as their illusionary universe falls to pieces, bit by bit.

All one can pray for is to be a good sport about it, whatever comes.

May we suffer well, and may we not suffer for too long ... Maybe there will be peace in the end.

All's well that ends well?

Holden,
I am wondering how Silenus is doing, and Ibra ... Maybe the Clown gave Silenus the creeps.   

On a humorous note:  My mom panics at the thought of running out of toilet paper.

It's just as well I am trapped here with my mom.  If I had been living the way I was 5 years ago, there is a good chance I would not want to expose my mother to myself since i would have been hitting all the free meals and hand-out zones.  My mom needs me for everything, and even though this is a ridiculous life, I might not be so grounded were I a lone male out there alone, howling and whispering to the moon!

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"The gods hide the happiness of death from man that he might endure living."
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My apologies if I sound as though I am detached from the "global event."  I guess it will have different effects on different people.  I'm going to try to just continue being myself.  If my cockroach body gets attacked by the bug, I will try not to be a complete infant; but I do not suffer well.  Even a head cold feels like some kind of torment in Hell.

I am sure to curse the gods ... the devils as they free this animal body from its attachment to organic life.

There is surely something surreal when such an outbreak is global.   There is no need to distract ourselves with horror or science fiction literature.  Our reality is stranger than fiction.

Nor is there a reason to add to the number of books written by members of our species.

May we each reap the harvest of our own deep reflections upon this miserable existence which everyone has been brainwashed since childhood to speak of as "the precious gift of life."

Plagues are a part of this life, and we are each destined for the graveyard.

Would any of the already dead choose to return to this madhouse prison planet given the choice?
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2020, 11:38:25 am »
Senor Raul,

Everyone here is wearing a mask including yours truly.Today the roads are deserted and it feels like a post apocalyptic novel.Like the Road.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2006/nov/04/featuresreviews.guardianreview4

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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2020, 01:59:13 pm »
My mother should know this ... I'll send her the link in an email so as to avoid an argument.  It is my theory that "seniors" release tension through bickering, complaining, and petty arguments.

Thanks for the information, Holden.   That would seem the most practical course to take.

Needless to say, there is a certain sick pleasure witnessing the poop hit the air-conditioning system.

Shortage of toilet paper may only be the beginning of Maman's problems.

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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2020, 02:33:51 pm »
Hentrich,

Thank you for your response. A new day is dawning. A more cruel, hostile, and ruthless world will emerge after this event. I have no doubt about this. The fact that I am seeing the army patrolling the streets at night - a measure against the constitution- is enough evidence that things will turn uglier as days pass. This isolation can be also called a house arrest.

Using your words for millions their illusionary universe will fall to pieces, bit by bit. But again give the complexity of human psychology they will still cling to the idea that life is a gift.

I read in a Paraguayan digital newspaper that because of the social isolation many couples are buying condoms in the pharmacies. Sex and business must go on. Also as you say in American English there will be girls who are looking for a guy to knock her up even in this tragedy.

Here there are two popular Catholic saints, called San Blas and San Expedito. Most are praying to them against the Chinese virus. Others pray to Chiquitunga, a Paraguayan nun recently canonized by the Church, and San Roque González, a saint, a martyr killed by the Indians three centuries ago. These saints are powerless against the virus. 

In Ciudad del Este a police officer violated the quarantine, he went to party with his friends, went to a motel with an 18 year-old girl, he fell off the stairs and died. He was 30 years old. I say he is resting in real peace now.

As you also say maybe there will be peace in the end.

Stay safe and sound.

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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2020, 06:30:31 pm »
Right now, Raul, I would just like to discover a way to transform my "biitchy" and "irritable" attitude into one with a little more biting satire.  I will be accused of being unsympathetic.

I am not obligated to "keep my head together."

In fact, I am seriously considering having THAT stiff drink right about now.   The Mother is getting on my nerves more and more, and the calls from the government for retired healthcare workers to come out of retirement to help on the front lines does nothing but nausiate me.  So dishonest ... yes, there is something very dishonest about the entire operation.   

As a misanthrope, I suspect that most human beings are liars.  I suspect many lie mostly to themselves; hence, I feel as though my honesty about who or what I HATE will be turned against me --- since so many others would never even allow themselves to acknowledge their ugly feelings.

Unsympathetic?  me?

NOTE:  I started a thread on the pandamic.

Please feel free to be as honest and mean-spirited as possible.  I would like us to lay bare our souls here.   I am not such a pleasant creature, even though I appear to be kind.   Deep down inside, there is this miserable hater to despizes thiose who say things like, "Suuck it up" or "man up."

So many machismos all-too-full-of-shiit.

I am not so much "afraid" of dying as I am disgusted with living.  This really is not worth it.

Am I too harsh?
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To my unborn tribe:

I do not want you…
To be born!

I do not want you…
To inherit
Defects,
Disorders and
Anxieties
From your father.

I do not want you…
To wear on your face
The nightmares of your mother.

I do not want you…
Barely out of her entrails
To cry…
That in the polluted atmosphere
Of our world
You suffocate…
And that we strike to resuscitate you.

I do not want…
To hear your cries
When you are thirsty
When you are hungry
When you are in pain.

I do not want…
To extricate you from your dreams
And drag you to school
Where fools
Will force-feed you
With stupefying nonsense.

I do not want…
Anything to do
With your social development
To teach you our smirks
To teach you to bow down
To deceive yourself.

I do not want…
The first maniac that comes along
To touch a single of your hairs

I do not want…
The priest to threaten you with hell
The schoolmaster, with unemployment
The janitor, with prison.

I do not want you…
To inhabit my city
Or listen
To my television lying to you
To slake your thirst
On the venom of my journals.
To play in the street
With thugs
Who will spit in your face.

I do not want…
Sinister crooks
To chain you to some drug,
To turn you into an addict,
To better abuse you,
In the general indifference.

I do not want…
Women to bewitch you
With their arrogant breasts
And their protruding asses,
So many lures for one finality:
Giving birth.

Nor do I want…
Pretentious Casanovas
To pursue you with their sycophancy
And toy with your sensitivity.

I do not want you…
To waste your life
Earning your daily bread
By the sweat of your brow.
Or else by a thousand renunciations
By a thousand compromises.

I do not want you…
To fight for John Doe
Or for anyone else
Or for anything else.

I do not want you…
To see the next war
To get cancer,
Or witness one of the thousand evils to come.

I do not want you…
To suffer.

I do not want you…
To ask your father one day
Why he let you come into a world
That does not care about the world!

I do not want you…
To be born

There are enough slaves on earth!


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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2020, 06:17:42 am »
Hentrich,

I hope your father and sister and also your nephew are doing allright in this situation. I am sure you are doing what you can for your mother. Your circumstances are complicated specially now. From what you have written you have proved to be very strong and resilient. Maybe this has to do with your bloodline. You are a Kraut.

You are not obligated to keep your head together. And you are not unsympathetic or harsh either. You see this world with your eyes wide open. You are right to be angry. You were lied to for a very long time. We have been lied to for a very long time. We vomited their lies.

You are not a monster. Who can blame you for feeling hatred toward this world? The real monsters are those who engineered wars, famines, financial crashes, etc. Honestly I don´t wish many people well. I would not shed tears for them but the problem is that most of them are parents. Their children need them. Their present is bleak and the future is much bleaker. Their parents were slaves and now their children will face a compulsory world slavery. No life is good.

Our grandparents and parents´world is gone. Their world and everything they fought for does not exist anymore. Indeed it was a fake world with false values. I have nothing to be thankful to my parents.

I won´t lie. I am afraid of dying. But my time will come. I may get hit by the virus, by a car, by a motorcycle or a cancer or even get stabbed in the street. This is the so-called cycle of life in this laboratory called Earth. 

On the radio I heard the Paraguayan ambassador to Italy. He said that there were military convoys taking the dead to cremation sites because there is no more room in the cemeteries. I can see myself being taken in coffins in trucks here.

Again the war machinery keeps moving. I read that there are 30,000 U.S. troops with thousands of armoured vehicles in Bavaria, Germany. Something is going on there.

Once again stay safe and drive carefully.

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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2020, 07:11:21 am »
I saw all the people behind their masks. I saw through them and there was suffering.” Vincent van Gogh
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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2020, 07:21:48 am »
MARRIAGE

Requirements:
•No days off
•Working overtime everyday
•No holidays
•No say in the business

Returns:
•Stress and health problems
•Maybe s*x if you’re lucky

Want to quit?

Half of everything + kids,house and car.

What if you can’t pay?

Go to prison!
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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2020, 08:21:14 am »
Holden,

I trust you are taking care of yourself. Thank you for your quotes. As long as I can I will read this board. If I am not heard anymore, it means that using Hentrich´s words, I disintegrated into thin air.

A few minutes ago someone said to me: If you are so negative, why don´t you kill yourself now? I will die at anytime, I replied.

Stay safe.

 

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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2020, 12:09:05 pm »
Senor Raul,
I hope you live long and prosper.

And multiply  :P
This part of the country,where I am,has it really bad.
Almost complete lockdown.As it is my lungs are weak.
You and Herr Hentrich write such beautiful and elaborate posts and I just write a line or two.I am sorry about that.
I feel very distracted most of the time.
Like the stray dog who is always afraid that he might get attacked from any direction at any time.

Take care.
P.S. Physically, you have descended from the mighty conquistadors and Herr Hentrich's tribe defeated the infamous Roman Legions,I am the weakling here, with tuberculosis infested lungs.Corona might be the cherry on the tuberculor lungs..

In my country deaths like these are commonplace.They can spare the likes of me quite easily.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_famine_of_1943


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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2020, 02:59:06 pm »
Holden,

Once again take good care of your body and mind. Here the government is going to decide if they continue with the measures. I think they will keep this curfew until Holy Week, that is, April 9 and 10. 

The health authorities insist with all kinds of measures: washing hands with soap before and after eating, after sShitting and pissing, using bleach to clean the door locks, leave the shoes outside, and clean them with bleach after coming home, wash the clothes you use after coming home, keeping distance from people, etc. The government is going to provide food kits to people. This is like giving aspirins to many suffering from cancer.

In Spanish we have an informal expression, “me chupa un huevo”, an egg sucks me is the literal translation, meaning I don´t care. In plural we say les chupa un huevo, an eggs sucks them, so the Paraguayan government does not care the least about the population.

They estimate that around 500,000 people could get infected here. For the boys and girls in power it is good business. The super ultra rich will get richer. The pharmaceutical companies must be making trillions of euros and dollars selling antidepressants and masks. The government is going to request loans from the International Monetary Fund. I would not be surprised that once the loan is approved the Chinese virus will disappear.

By the way I read in a blog by Rafael Palacios, a Spanish journalist, where he claims that former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates and his foundation are behind the pandemics. 
At the same time we still have the epidemics of dengue. This is the risk of living in an overcrowded city. I heard a British doctor, John Campbell, say that in Ethiopia there are 2 doctors per 10,000 people.

I saw the pictures of the Bengal famine. It could happen here too. One dead, ten thousand dead, one million dead means nothing to those in power.     

I read that the Grim Reaper appeared in Europe in the 14th century in the times of the Black Death. The skeletal figure with a scythe in a black robe. The man with the scythe, or the Grim Reaper is back and he is going to have a lot of fun. The harvest crop is ready to be plucked from the earth.

Stay well.

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Re: CNN travel - The Misanthrope Society
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2020, 09:17:51 pm »
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Physically, you have descended from the mighty conquistadors and Herr Hentrich's tribe defeated the infamous Roman Legions,I am the weakling here, with tuberculosis infested lungs.Corona might be the cherry on the tuberculor lungs...

I would not burden yourself over these differences in the behaviors of our recent ancestors, as each human organism must face the same existential crisis in the end.

Also, we are each very fragile and vulnerable, something the machismo knuckle-draggers become quite intimate with when they catch a head cold or get hit with the flu.   The warriors and soldiers are presented as heroes, but, Holden, are we to accept these Slave Heroes?   We do not have any heroes.   Schopenhauer is not so much my as the author of something that had become a sort of "Bible" for me ... the voice of a higher order ... a rare taste of someone who was not a shill for the corporate state.   OK, I suppose the Buddha and Christ and John the Baptist were also heroes (no more so than Robin Hood) ... but I had eventually become disillusioned by religion in general, and even disillusioned over my initial glorification of the criminal elements ... that is, while I am still confident there are a great many thinkers trapped in the prison industry, I have grown to despize gang (packs of males) mentalites.

Can we, as human beings, forget these demands for heroism, and simply acknowledge just how ridiculous our predicament is ... Do you suppose misanthropes might be more impressed with antiheroes, such as the disgruntled soldier who refuses to carry arms or fakes insanity to be discharged from pointless wars over resources to fuel the Meat Grinder?
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