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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2019, 11:27:54 am »
Greetings and Salutations Raul,

10^6  = 1,000,000 = 1.000.000 frog skins US dolares?  The cost of living?

I have heard or read that the original homo sapiens of this Turtle Island, presently occupied as the United States of America, at least in the northern regions, had "Chieftons" who lived among the People in an identical shelter as All, the shelters were such that they could be transported on backs.  When the People were hungry, the chief/leader/Elder would also be hungry.  The oppulance of the wealthy merchants and aristocrats from "the East" (what is now called "Europe") baffled them, and they saw most "paleskins" as slaves or prostitutes, as they were servile to the Overlords.  Actually, the term Was

No, their's was a different political structure altogether.

Got a million dollars?

No.  I have 15 US dollars - but I have a wealth of non-commidifiable "components" in my internal wiring that may be far more VALUABLE than fame and/or fortune.  We are a tube that consumes matter, uses its "energy" and discharges the waste product from the other end of the tube. 

A cure to such terminal births is the probable cause of famine.

How ironic that life-saving medicines have this potential to cause massive die-off when the land base can no longer support the population, and must depend on imported food.  This is not a modern phenomenon only, nor is it simply "the white man" or gringo problem.  Look at the "Central American Empires" - Aztecs, Mayans, etc - which got too big and collapsed in the center.

Their rulers lived like Monster Trumpets.
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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2019, 04:27:48 pm »
Holden,

When I was a child I used to watch a TV series about a U.S. unit in France in WW2. The TV series was Combat and the main actor was Vic Morrow. These men always were the victors while the Germans always lost. Probably that is why I read about Hitler and Nazi Germany. I never read Mein Kampf in full, only some parts taken by authors in their books.

Years later I started to hear for the first time about SS Captain Edward Roschmann who died here, Martin Bormann, and specially Dr.Josef Mengele aka The Angel of Death  who was given Paraguayan citizenship in 1959. Supposedly he stayed some years here and then fled to Brazil where he again, supposedly, died in 1979 by drowning. Dr. Mengele was wanted because of his wartime medical experiments on twins, children, and dwarfs. He believed these experiments in Auschwitz to be groundbreaking. In 1943, he ordered hundreds of children under the age of five thrown alive into a fire pit to burn to death. Those who attempted to climb out were hurled back into the flames by the guards. When he gave those orders, he thought that the gas chambers were an ineffective means of murdering such young children. 

Two years ago I found in ZooTube, as Hentrich calls it, the title in Spanish “Militar Reptiliano grabado en su transformación ante las cámaras” by Marcelo Larin, a guy from El Salvador. Please take a look at Field Marshall Wilhelm Keitel´s eyes during the German surrender in 1945 from Italian archives. Between 5:43 and 6:01 Larin says Keitel´s eyes change. Below you have the link. I can only say that it is interesting.

I went to a public primary school, mixed, boys and girls. In my first fight, as far as I remember, my classmate really hit me hard. He was stronger than me. I also started to steal things from my classroom, mainly small dictionaries and erasers.

To remember all my bad time I would need a hypnotist since I hid them deeply in my mind like a banker hides his money in a vault. My childhood was bitter, sour and resentful. My sister and I went through a lot of miserable experiences. Sometimes I would like to take revenge against those who abused me in the past. I would like to tell them that even black has its shades and I am blacker than black.

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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2019, 05:46:02 pm »
Hentrich,

Thank for your response. I will never have 1 million dollars. I only see huge bags of Guaranis, dollars, checks, and other currency being taken to armoured cars by security personnel in a bank near here. I am sure that money in those bags can buy Spinraza for Agustina, the baby girl and other babies that need urgent help.

I admit I would like to have that amount to help some and to humiliate others. I know I can fall that low in life.
Most of my life has been deemed as a failure because of my lack of money. That is life.

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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2019, 06:48:13 am »
Senor Raul,

Travis Bickle:
I realize now how much she's just like the others, cold and distant, and many people are like that, women for sure, they're like a union.

Take care

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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2019, 08:05:05 am »
Senor Raul,
I sometimes try to imagine how it would feel to be crucified ,to be publicly humiliated and shamed. Then, I realise then I need not imagine at all. That I do so every single day.I told told a woman once that where I am ,I am treated as an outsider and am being tormented on a daily basis. She did not even bother to write a single letter in reply. I had no romantic feelings for her. I merely wanted her to know that existence is not all fun and games.

That's what I always get silence. Have you watched the movie called Silence?
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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #35 on: September 05, 2019, 03:32:57 pm »
Holden,

This is the last post I read but I did not answer. I have been having these days blurred sight. My left eye was red and sticky probably due to an infection. I only see with the left eye so I could not read correctly. I also cough and I have a cold. Now I am using eye drops that help me.

We have had extreme weather change these days. Last week some days were very hot and then later it was cold.  We had severe fires in the Paraguayan Chaco. The firefighters combatted the fires with assistance from Chile. I heard on the radio that the Paraguayan Vice President has a estancia (cattle ranch) over there so I think that is the reason the government moved all the resources. I feel sad for the babies because the little ones suffer much more than the adults with extreme weather change.

I am not a soccer fan but last week I heard the reporters comment the speech made by ex French soccer player, Eric Cantona.  He was in the Champions League draw in Monaco. He said these words:
“As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods, they kill us for their sport”.  “Soon the science will not only be able to slow down the ageing of the cells, soon the science will fix the cells to the state and so we will become eternal.

“Only accidents, crimes, wars, will still kill us but unfortunately, crimes, wars, will multiply. I love football. Thank you.”

What made an ex soccer player say these words in front of that audience? Not a clue, really. Certainly his words intrigued me.

The movie you mentioned, Melancholial, reminded of the only one scene, I saw, with these words:
"The Earth is evil and we don´t need to grieve for it. "

I read Psalm 144:4 from the English Standard Version :

"Man is like a breath;
his days are like a passing shadow."

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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2019, 08:04:25 am »
Senor Raul,

I remember when I first heard this sentence you quoted uttered in the film.  It had hit me like a ton a bricks, and considered it the core of the film's message:  "The Earth is evil and we don´t need to grieve for it."

This flew in the face of every narrative I had heard, as far as "Gaia" or the animistic earth/sun oriented religions addressing the earth as, "Earth Mother," or "Grandmother Moon,"  "Father Sun,"  "Grandfather Sky," etc.    Recall the images of "shamanistic" Francis of Assisi communing with animal-life "in a sacred manner."

To witness the woman blurt out such an obvious truth, something we can witness in the day to day existence of any animal, be it a man or an ape, any primate, any mammal, any reptile or insect:  this world is full of ****.   Most of the narratives about the nature of our lives are invented stories made up so we might endure our Fate, a necessary lie.

No wonder we are so "evil," since the Great Mother is such a tough old [BEYOND ANCIENT] Pit of Wonderful Phenomena Beyond Good and Evil; but from our perspective, yes, harmful and evil.   Nature does not seem too concerned with the Fate of individual creatures.   In fact, I do not even feel comfortable placing human form or sexuality to this THING-IN-ITSELF which grounds us.

No matter what the Earth's relation to this solar system or to the cosmos in general, for we creatures squirming about upon the surface, under the ozone layer, the Earth is what grounds our entire being.   In fact, since the earth is mostly water, we really are some strange surface nuisance as good ole' George Carlin had proclaimed.

Me, personally, I most likely will kill myself smoking cheap pipe tobacco, one after the other, like a mental patient in an old fashioned Asylum that still allows its inmates to smoke tobacco.  These days "we" would be called "clients" - or even "customers" --- mental health consumers.  [BARF]

If mentally ill people are not supposed to carry weapons, how do we explain the military and police departments all over the planet?   Are we stupid enough to suppose the ranks of the military and police are NOT mentally ill?

Holy Fuuck.

Evil.

Life is evil.

I suppose Holden is right on the money with Exorcist references, where he sees the Will in the Demons within the possessed girl.   The Dance of Fertility in most "earth-based" Mother-Earth worshiping cultures seem to reek strongly of, what's his name?   Pazuzu?

Holden,  wasn't your boy, HP Lovecraft, obsessed with the rituals of "pre-literate" cultures.  He would depict certain freaky phenomena such as a backwards community of half-breeds who enact what one might imagine to be "Satanic rituals," which involved not the "Christian Devil" (nor Hebrew nor Muslim Devils), but an entirely more exotic echelon of Old Ones.    The Nordics have their Old Gods, and cultures all over the world abound in "stories" giving human disguises to Natural Forces : they've been supernaturalized.

Do you suppose Nature and Supernatural are related in a way that Physics and Metaphysics are?

There is no supernatural, just inexplicable, incomprehensible Nature.

Nor is there any metaphysics, just the stuff left over after mankind has exhausted his ability to deceive himself into delusional complacency.

I may be full of shiit.   We all might be babbling liars incapable of beholding the true nature of our lives.

Is this not what Cioran was suggesting in "Thinking Against Ourselves"?

In order to see ourselves, our species, and the Earth for what we are, we may have to damage our own egos in the process.  Our egos will be crushed in the process of this analysis.   

We should neither grieve for our species ... for similar reasons.
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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2019, 06:41:09 am »
Don Hentrich,

Thank you for both of your posts. As you say life is evil. We are demonic clowns in sacks of flesh and bones. We harm more with our minds and mouths than with weapons of mass destruction.

In this age where most talk about preserving life on Earth this statement by the character played by Kirsten Dunst: “The Earth is evil and we don´t need to grieve for it.” will not be welcome by most people”. For most life is wonderful/great/awesome and the party must go on. The prospect of our inevitable extinction is very hard to endure. We deny every single second that our psychological and physical fragility haunts us.

Three days ago I heard a Paraguayan doctor talking about the prevention of suicide. I heard him say what I expected him to say,that is, that life is great per secula seculorum. He will never say that life is pure horror. The fact that I am aware/conscious of my own mortality is a huge burden. How tragic to realize that life depends on the destruction of other creatures!

I read that chronic health issues, bad diet and poor lifestyle can, and will impact our mental health. The part of the brain associated with mental health, memory, emotion and mood is called the hippocampus; the name in biology for the seahorse. The scientists link problems with the hippocampus to depression, specially, the shrinking or failing to regrow this part of the brain after a long stress.

At this time of my life my hippocampus probably has the size of a pin. Some asked me what is wrong with me. I would like to tell them that life is wrong with me.

In the event of a future major-scale barbecue homo sapiens sapiens will be another experiment gone wrong.

As Holden says we are in the wheel of samsara.

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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2019, 11:17:35 am »
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Two years ago I found in ZooTube, as Hentrich calls it, the title in Spanish “Militar Reptiliano grabado en su transformación ante las cámaras” by Marcelo Larin, a guy from El Salvador. Please take a look at Field Marshall Wilhelm Keitel´s eyes during the German surrender in 1945 from Italian archives. Between 5:43 and 6:01 Larin says Keitel´s eyes change. Below you have the link. I can only say that it is interesting.

I tried to watch most of the video, but found by the middle that I was not comprehending as much as I would like to, and to be blunt, witnessed my lack of ability to "hear Spanish" well.  It is far more challenging than the written escribo.

Even when speaking the same language, we can expect to misunderstand, expect to be misunderstood. 

Was the man discussing something similar to D.Icke? more about the Lizard People?

I suppose it is comforting to suppose one has some kind of secret insight into such things.   Many boys whistle in the dark rather than admit being controlled from afar.  And yet, this is only what I misunderstand him saying, if you get my drift.  I have no idea what he was saying after awhile, and feelings of overwhelming culture shock returned, the kind of feelings I must have felt every time I went into the market to gather groceries among los gentes de Barrio de Freehold, dirty jersey, my hometown.

To be colonized is to be controlled from afar.  I believe we all live as colonized peoples.  I am colonized 3000 years back, whereas many of the more robust and vibrant peoples of the world have only been exposed to the "Reptilian" Overlords' rule for at most 600 years or so. 

What I mean to say is that, in this Zoo, there is alienation within alienation, where those who may "look like" the "original colonizer" end up feeling socially alienated by the more fertile, rapidly breeding "colonized," who are genetically more similar to their indigenous ancestors.

It's just ironic, I suppose.  I am a living example of how, even many generations into being colonized, the inter-tribal conflicts lead to a standardized language, in my case, German had been stricken from the "input" tube to the Old Noodles, and we are a couple generations at least into the Englisized German American ... fortunately for me, most programming languages use "English" type names and internal keywords; although I am always challenged when reading code written with all other parts in German or Spanish or Arabic or Russian.   I confess that it is humbling and overwhelming at once to witness what a fool I am when it comes to interacting with the global community. 

I do what I can.

Maybe the reason I am drawn to the math is because so much of it is universal to the entire globe.

There is a gigantic discrepancy between my inner life and the brute facts of my animal existence.  So be it if the one overshadows the other.  For some, the inner life is primary, which seems appropriate to me.   Others put all their faith in the Outer World of Appearances, that is, in the phenomena inside other peoples' heads.   They are more easily intimidated by gangs and mobs because they lack the courage to stand alone.

People may forget that, if you choose to stand alone, there is nothing preventing you from standing alone "in hiding."   It is never wise to go toe to toe with the mob, the hordes, the stadiums, the Nuclear Family, the Town, the State, etc ... It is ok to HIDE.

Most animals do not need to be told this. 

We have somehow come to live like insects in a hive, and yet we are still gregarious, ape-like creatures not designed to fly down highways on suicide-machines ...

our species is being taken for a ride by Cthuluic Mind Parasites, and all she wants to do is dance, dance ...

all she wants to do is dance
and make romance

she wants to party, she wants to get down
she wants to waste her entire monthly ration
on rock form coca-cola solid,
chasing it down with the hardest liquor
she can steal

all she wants to do is dance
like that skinny aging pop-punk musician
with the orange clown hair
old lady face
and red grocery store clerk uniform

after work-shift hours, after the self-hypnotic shuffle
to the local liquor store,
or first thing in the morning with a little cold can
of good old grain or barley

whatever it is, it makes you kind of dance
in the morning if you have a radio
and neighbors that can endure you, (most will not)
the best scenario is no neighbors at all
like that in Mendham USED TO have it
 ???




Hell, with enough liquor, who doesn't dance?
or even make romance (with themselves usually, treating their own bodies as an amusement park)

When I used to drink heavy, I would joke in the morning how i may have to press charges or get a restraining order against myself from my own damn self.   I would rudely joke the next day how I had attacked myself last night, sexually abusing myself.    Drinking in the morning, I had a better sense of humor than I do now, 4 years "sober."

The innuendo, in case I wasn't explicit enough, was that alcohol lowers my sexual inhibitions, even when it came to something as ape-shiit basic as giving my own goddamn self a Big Fat Orgasm.   I give all credit for my shameless openness in this matter to [Spiritual Grandfather] Arthur Schopenhauer, for honoring his readers by focusing on what must be common to us all, usually ignored by polite society except for half-sloshed and starving stand up comedians.
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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2019, 02:23:05 pm »
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scientists link problems with the hippocampus to depression, specially, the shrinking or failing to regrow this part of the brain after a long stress.

This is why you encourage me to remain content with a boring life of study, where I lock myself away like a modern-day sci-fi Hikikomori-monk, deeply engrossed in texts ejected from the Standard Curriculum, as you see I am partly stimulating these parts of the brain for no cost (less hunting down old used books) - which lasts longer than booze or the kinds of drugs only celebrities and high-paid slaves can afford to indulge in.

Even if I have to repeat the same material a year later, and have to get used to the confusion and shock to witness how seriously i have to focus on the material or code before I am "back in the groove."   it is humbling being this bundle tubes and wires.   Still, where Schopenhauer accused excessive numerical computation as ruining the ability to think, I find, for minds such as mine, far less developed or cultured as his, the mental stimulation sparked in working through the algorithms with actual numerical "instances" serves as a great distraction from the otherwise redundant cycle of hungers and feedings.

For me, personally, going over and over fundamentals dealing with something like complex numbers, well, this sparks those areas of the brain for these are concepts which troubled me as a teenager when I experienced a nervous/emotional breakdown.  i had repressed a great deal, and was drinking hard liquor on top of it.   Add whatever and mix: along with so many others, maybe I ought to be dead by now.   

Anyway, for me, even after studying later in life, I had never been satisfied with my understanding of complex numbers.   The square root of negative one always bothered me:  i.


Oddly enough, it was while considering a data structure that could represent a complex number, and noticing that the attributes and behaviors were identical with that of a 2-dimensional vector, that I experienced the intuitive grasp (with the help of a geometric representation of 2D vector).

Once I have this representation, just engaging in the algebraic manipulations requires me mental effort.  this effort is not a bad thing.  This is maybe sparking certain areas of the brain.   So much is done by computers that many people never experience the innocent delight in "computing" [not necessarily with a machine].

Let's hope your eye-sight remains steady.   Is there any software which can read aloud and translate.   I understand that there would be challenges.  You have a stubborn and tenacious brain.  It will find a way to compose your communications.

We never actually know when any of us will drop off. 



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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2019, 03:28:38 pm »
Herr Kaspar,

I don't mind being depressed or sad. I can put up with it. It's the panic attacks that I cannot bear.Its midnight here and just 2 hours back I felt so cold and feverish that I had to turn off the fan.My hair is still full of sweat. Henry Fool says an honest man is always in trouble, well then, I must be an honest man for I am always in trouble.

I relate to Lovecraft because I think he suffered with panic attacks just like mine, only his language was far more colorful.How that poor man ended up marrying is rather difficult to comprehend.But for all intents and purposes he was a life long bachelor.I think bachelorhood is one of the preconditions,if one wants to "stand in the truth"..what the Catholic Church failed to understand is that such a precondition cannot be turned into a law and must emerge from one's very core.When I was young, like you, I suffered a nervous breakdown too.There are some dark parts of my life I still can barely dare to bring to daylight.Maybe someday soon. Like Fool says,a poet ought be able to think about everything.

I think if the spirit of Schopenhauer exists in any form or manner at all, it certainly comes to visit you from time to time. :)
Recently I have watched a movie called Shawshank Redemption ,about life in prison, and another called 12 years a Slave. In the first one ,a young banker is locked up on the false charges of murdering his wife and in the later movie, a black man from one of the northern states in the US is kidnapped and sold off as a slave in one of  the southern states. I really liked them. Schopenhauer says, if you want a safe compass ,one must think of life as a prison..
Well, the slave loves to play the fiddle but hardly gets the time to do so as he is made to work in the cotton fields. But from time to time he plays.
I study math in a very similar manner.One of the women slaves, keeps crying all the time, while she is working, while she is in her bed, all the time, as her kids are sold off to another family. I want to tell you that I hate the liberals for they think that all that the slavery business is now ancient history. Well, I work yes, but like that woman I told you about they cannot stop me from weeping all the time. They try to shame me for being a fully grown man and crying ,but let them, I will cry only harder still.

Gulags, concentration camps ,bad places they certainly are, but they are at least more honest than the workplaces, which pretend to the epitome of liberal democratic capitalism. ( I am no fan of socialism either, I am sorry to say).

So,yes, I think of myself as a slave in Georgia, an inmate in a Polish concentration camp,a prisoner in a Siberian Gulag.Because that is the truth. I am not an "employee" ,they cannot pull wool over my eyes forever.I see the thing for what it is.Yes, I can the thing-in-itself and the forms it's wrapped in.

 
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Re: Capernaum by Nadine Labaki
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2019, 07:03:14 pm »
Licenciado Hentrich,

Thank you for your response. I will try to take care of my eyes as long as I can.

Yes, “Militar Reptiliano grabado en su transformación ante las cámaras” (Reptilian military officer taped in his transformation before the cameras) is by Marcelo Larin, from El Salvador. I think he follows David Icke´s ideas on Lizard People. Keitel is not the only one who appears in this video but also U.S.General Petraeus in minutes 3:11. But I focused on the Feld Marshal´s eyes in minutes 5:52. I can only say that it is interesting. Indeed we live in a very strange world.

Last week we had Donald Duck´s daughter, Ivanka Trump, who came on an official visit. She went to a poor barrio near the government palace. If she had also gone to the flooded areas and talked to the damnificados (victims of the flood) she might have been attacked by snakes. That would have been very embarrassing, to say the least. I hope she did not catch the dengue fever that is common here.

In the countryside, in a town called Guarambaré, there is a traditional gift of money every September 7. Fifty promeseros (people who make promises) climb the bell tower of the temple of the Nativity of Mary to fulfill their promise to throw money to the crowd that wait below, mostly children. This event begins at noon with the national anthem and raising of the Paraguayan flag, in charge of the parish priest, Father Marcos Wilk, and the intendente (mayor) José A. Vallejos. Every year the promeseros arrive at the temple to pay their promise for the favors received from the Mother of Jesus.

I am not Catholic but I think next year I will go there, maybe, I will be lucky.

Here is the link where you will see the picture of this event.

https://www.abc.com.py/edicion-impresa/interior/2019/09/08/tradicional-regalo-de-dinero/

Stay safe and take a siesta.