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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2023, 07:59:03 am »
Well, it looks like it's gonna be a very, very, very slow reading of this translation of the Chaos of Caraco

Now my "Kindle" eBook-Reader is missing
Is this a line of poetry or Science Fiction?

I - My Living Animal Body, that is
Will NOT be handing cash over to Landlord in a couple days
But - instead
Will place computers back in storage

Much work done
Keeping relations in order
No time to communicate

Jailbreaking (rooting) Android
Then off grid, perhaps

 :-X


Much work to do with these machines before storing them

Several hand-written works/modules of thought that may get destroyed

By ELEMENTAL FORCES if I am not careful.


Peace.
Over and Out
And all that nonsense

Just having had access to a couple of the notebook computers that were in my little Lebenswelt Life-World has helped "the Organism-as-a-Whole-in-Environments" regroup, reboot, reformat, reorganize ...

Basically I have prepared these machines for Development Work geared toward maintaining the kind of "University of One" that is my phenomenal being.

I wish to go through certain special notebooks, but risk having them destroyed or stolen or lost.

The few notebooks I carry are even more precious to me than the computing devices I use, or the mediums I preserve "work" on.

In the meantime, the mother-scratchers expect me to praise Jesus for a handful of flour.
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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2023, 09:16:55 am »
"We enter into the night and we will only emerge as weak remains, we are too many, we will be more numerous and we will be increasingly numerous, so that chaos prevails and death is sated. Our masters are our enemies and our spiritual leaders, our seducers and their accomplices, we are orphans and we do not want to hear it, we seek fathers and mothers everywhere, they are promised to us even in Heaven and we invoke them from the depths of these abysses where moral order makes us subsist. In the future universe, there will be no mass of perdition, not because all men will be happy, but because there will no longer be a mass. With a hundred million humans, the Earth would become Paradise; with the billions that devour it and soil it, it will be Hell from pole to pole, the prison of the species, the universal torture chamber and the sewer filled with mystical fools subsisting in their filth. The mass is the sin of order, it is the byproduct of morality and faith, that is enough to condemn order, morality and faith, because they only serve to multiply men and turn them into insects."

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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2023, 09:44:25 am »
Major point of Caraco seems to be: Order (civilization), brought forth by Law (Religious and Penal), Procreation, Servitude, Tradition, Morality and Consumerism/Economic Growth, is inherently a nihilistic march towards Death (Spengler agrees with this view, as does Nietzsche's Genealogy).  Order is the form that we give to Chaos, a humanistic machine that demands ever-new birth (a.k.a. a death machine) and consumption.  History shows us that Order and Civilization is a march of the mass to servitude and mass death.  Remnants of this collapsed civilization will realize the need to be ruled by women, not men, for men create Order and History (chaos) while women have the most important trait in the species: the ability to control a population and it's traits through abortion.  Until then, everything must necessarily dissolve, break apart, exhaust itself and become culturally and creatively stagnant as that is the Fate and Destiny of Order and Tradition.  Rebels against this system take a Gnostic view of the world, refraining from procreation and look to the silence of History (it's end-game) to see the path ahead.

It seems like Caraco makes out Order to be nihilistic, while making a distinction between that nihilism and the nihilist rebel who anticipates and essentially "cheers on" the catastrophe (the end of ) Order, which is Disorder.
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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2024, 11:27:12 am »


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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2024, 11:49:33 pm »
"We have never had a Father in Heaven; we are orphans. It's up to us to understand this, to grow up, to refuse obedience to those who mislead us, and to sacrifice those who devote us to the abyss. No one will save us; we must do it ourselves.”

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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2024, 06:11:36 pm »
Silenus,

Thank you again for sharing Mary Huot´s masterpiece and Caraco´s words.

Below there is a link to a song you and the readers of this blog must have heard some time ago.

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"Our Common Duty to Disappear" Essay on Caraco
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2024, 10:11:24 pm »
I have translated an essay (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380693734_Albert_Caraco) from Italian to English using QuillBot Translator on Caraco, gnosticism and antinatalism.  I'll edit it if I can see any obvious errors.  Take care.

Albert Caraco

By: Sarah Dierna, University of Catania

It often happens that an author remains silent and in silence conducts his work of destruction; It happens, however, that he manages to cross the shadow wall beyond which he has remained confined because of his ideas to break into the cultural landscape in a disruptive way. Such was also the biographical and intellectual story of Albert Caraco (1919-1971).
Born in Constantinople to a family of Jewish origin, Caraco lived the first thirty years of his life in a continuous error first in Europe and then in South America in search of a hospitable and tolerant land.

The inhospitality and intolerance of these spaces also characterized the theoretical and existential experience of Caraco who of the world has always perceived the hostility and a feeling of alienation. An alienation first only felt and then deeply understood and introverted since 1946, when in his confessions (Ma confession) declares that in this period he was born a second time; was born to himself; He finally opened his eyes to the world and understood its error, its discomfort, its darkness.

Vladimir Dimitrijević, who was first a passionate reader of Caraco and then became its publisher, describes the philosopher of Constantinople as "a well of science, of culture, of bizarre and true anecdotes"; as "a lonely mandarine" who behind the order and harmony of his pen and his drawings hides "an abyssal experience of the tragic feeling of life. This feeling, far from being romantic, was truly Gnostic. Since nothing had taken the place of God, Albert Caraco ardently desired it as a calming acceptance of imperfect and earthly evils. The only thing that prevented him from satisfying this desire was his parents; In fact, he waited for the death of his father, which followed a few months after that of his mother, to embrace again the nothing that he so longed for and which in his eyes constituted the step towards eternal salvation to which life represents only a'school of death'.

Caraco's thinking, style and violence have been compared to the thinking, the style and the violence of two other great authors of the Novecento: Louis-Ferdinand Céline and Emil Cioran. Although there is a very basic niche and the same disenchanted view of the world, of history and of humanity, Caraco’s style remains very different and at the border between those two other thinkers. Post Mortem as the Breviary of Chaos – the works on which I will concentrate in this text – are in fact an aphorism of lucid self-analysis but are not written in aphorisms;

They are pages of philosophical prose without, however, having the course of prose. Caraco always fills his pages only to half. None of them, however, gives the impression of being incomplete; each rather communicates the essential without the need to fill the page. The vacuum left gives the reader a breath, a break and a truce before the next fulmination.

Automatic sperm


In physics, entropy measures the degree of disorder of particles. The universe tends to chaos and death. Of this chaos, the human is an epiphenomenon which by its action accelerates the degree of entropy of history as well as its own dissipation.

If you look at the present with a little attention, disillusionment and coolness, it is obvious that the number of humans inhabiting the planet has grown significantly and beyond measure. Fertility is an immoral act in that the one who performs it repeats and miniaturizes the activity of the Demiurge whose action is derived from ignorance and has shaped reality in his image and likeness, that is, in ignorance, and in darkness. In this fate has also been precipitated the human being, who has suffered the ‘injury’ of individuation but does not intend at all to marginalize its commitment as it is to continue the activity of the creator, that is, to generate.

The humanity precipitated in history has also felt the need to justify its presence in the world and to direct it towards the right course, and has therefore introduced secular and religious institutions with respective fidelity to the Fathers and the Father who never dies (not because he is perfect but because he has never been there). Temporal and religious power, however, place mankind on a more inclined plane, because, for different reasons and in obedience to different principles, they both feed the fateful generation activity. These powers thus find themselves ruling a mass of destruction.

Caraco's reflection is truly philosophical, not contented with sailing the surface coasts and prefers to get to the core theoretical of the issue. The mass of perdition is not only an express quantitative expression aimed at designating the overpopulation which the author also denounces already in the seventies of the twentieth century; It is first of all an ontological-existential metaphor and in fact recalls the Augustinian concept of mass damnationis with which the bishop of Ippona had described humanity deprived of redemptive grace. With an ironic defiance of Caraco, this mass is composed of ‘sperm automes’, of sleepwalkers that sail towards the night without noticing it. They are the majority, they live together without being aware of their state and their tendency toward darkness. Next to these automs, Caraco places “the reasonable and the sensitive, who live on two planes” and “the spiritually born twice”: "The sleepwalkers are the idolaters; the reasonable and sensible are the believers; The twice-born spirituals worship in their hearts what the first do not imagine and the second do not conceive, because they are accomplished men, and as such they do not go to seek, much less to adore, something that they have already found, for they themselves are this something. It is in fact the Gnostic tripartition of illic, psychic and pneumatic. As I anticipated, Caraco is also among those who have been born twice. While the first is a biological coming, the second is precisely a Gnostic rebirth in which the human heals from his own blindness and undertakes the long journey of liberation from the world. In this double passage (from non-being to being, from sleep to waking) was decisive the mother's figure that educated the son to coolness, to wisdom and to distance; She was a very busy woman in the life of her son who first and foremost accomplished this awakening on herself by abandoning superstitious assurances and religious lagoons towards an ever more meaningless but therefore also closer to the light and less painful existence. It is not by chance that the son often finds himself reflecting on the woman's illness, which forced her to take on pleasures that dulled the spirit and drowned the lucidity which she had so hard gained with the experience.

Unlike the rationalists and those who are reborn a second time, the mass of destruction sleeps before the obvious and relies on morality, religion, and Heads of State. The sleepwalkers/idolaters do not tolerate that the universe is entirely indifferent and therefore they have created a god in their image and likeness; and they decided that this god should send his son to die for them; They were convinced that pain was only a temporary disturbance to gain access to Paradise and sacrifice to the gods a guarantee to scatter death. In truth, "the laws of nature are mocked both of exorcisms and of prayer, and now that one learns to know them better one is stained with a guilt in transgressing them, and twice if one does so for the sake of exorcism and prayer". In the face of such folly we must acknowledge that “the refusal to sacrifice to the gods and to honor their priests in truth will no longer kill anyone, but the ignorance of ecology and the contempt for biology prepare the whole species for the most tragic future”. (BC, p. 117).

The sleep of reason has made man a child who needs a father who tells him the rules and corrects him; Only the gods can therefore change the world through the revelation of a new and anti-procreative faith: "it is the gods, in the final analysis, who must exhort them not to be fertile, if fertility threatens the survival of our species: neither the civil powers nor the academies full of famous scientists will ever have the authority that only the gods concentrate over them" and this new Revelation will be the return to a new Paganism that “will save the people, whom the so-called revealed religions make disappear in the maze of their now unsustainable paradoxes, paradoxes now illegitimate, now absurd paradoxes”; a paganism that will restore the measure and raise Athena or Artemis as gods to follow because "it is fertility, not fornication, that destroys the universe, it is duty, not pleasure" (BC, p. 108).

Besides the usual biological and evolutionary reasons, Caraco denounces much more human motivations in support of the generation. Not only the priests rejoice in the fertility of the sperm automates, but also the merchants who profit from them. This is also why we are regularly witnessing campaigns of incentives and support for births with their aid, which only serve to fuel the economic machine. And all this with the consent of those who will end up in the mouths of the beast. In a page that deserves to be throughout Caraco writes:

"Our masters have always been our enemies, and now more than ever, our masters are failing, because it is their fault if we are so numerous, for centuries, for millennia they want the subordinates to multiply, to drive them out and lead them to death. Even today, when the world is bursting and people lack land, their dream is to build fifty-storey houses and industrialize the ecumenic, with the pretext of providing for the needs of the other billions that are emerging, because they need more and more living beings, always, despite what they say. They methodically organize the Hell in which we burn, and to prevent us from reflecting they propin us insulting shows, which obscure our sensitivity and will end up ruining our brains, our padrons will consecrate those trastuls supervising to their mania with all the pomp that is convenient. We are returning to the circus of Byzantium and so we forget our real problems, but without these problems being forgotten of us, tomorrow we will find them again, and we already know that when they are insoluble we will go to war." (BC, p. 21)

In short, faith and morality are also ultimately at the service of power. Because with their principles built on nothing we obey not God, not reason, but power and his authorities who want to maintain their privileges and their dominion even at the cost of reaping death.

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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2024, 10:13:03 pm »
(Contd.)

Théophile de Giraud’s antinatalist hermeneutics of the Old and New Testaments would even allow us to think of a new Christianity more faithful to the Scriptures and thus antinatalist, which exalts the virginity of Mary, the chastity and the sterility of Jesus.

Caraco expressed similar positions to those of the Belgian scholar and also commented on the return to power of a female figure; on the priority role of Mary as Mother, Virgin and Prostitute; on the call to the son as his appendix, as the flesh that always depends on the womb that gave birth to him. The recovery of the matriarchy theorized by Johann Jakob Bachofen represents for the author the restoration of a quieter model of life that precedes the history of the fathers and avoids the chaos into which the paedri have plunged history.

Crime, punishment and salvation

In the face of all this Caraco has asked the following questions, which are legitimate and fair:

"How long will we be able to fool each other? All the terms have come to an end, the number of human beings is swelling like a sea in which the storm is about to start, the depleted soil discourages our efforts, the water will be lacking everywhere and the air is already scarce, the food has less and less consistency and the waste encompasses the ecumenism poisoning everything. Will the hour of truth not also be that of our agony? What will we oppose to our death? The ordinances of our Heads of State or the prayers of our spiritual? What do we need these parasites and these disorder advocates for? [...] How long will we still be able to deceive ourselves, hoping that the impossible will happen, beyond our obvious?" (BC, p. 118)

The evidence is the surplus of humans footing the Earth. The evidence is that mass and salvation are not compatible with each other. This is said from the existential point of view as the gnostic redeemed by knowledge is an elected relative to the destruction of the illic who are instead numeros, but it is also true from the anthropological and factual points of view. The masses, in fact, fall blindly into a descending spiral that will coincide with their complete dissipation. It is therefore necessary to counteract the reproductive act responsible for the multiplicity and the mismatch in which the human person lives and the dismatch that he is. If the authority wishes to maintain its dominion, it must no longer fill its land with insects.

The form of salvation then passes through sterility. On the contrary, generating means committing a crime in which the crime consists in bringing new human beings into the world, the punishment in the curse of living and sharing a Earth unable to sustain us all. Gnosis, as a path of knowledge and liberation is a slow but above all inadequate path to save humanity as the dark jungle only lights up to the spiritual; in order to salvation it is then necessary to make the sleepwalkers desperate and unbelieving4. On the contrary, hope and optimism – which Caraco imputes to the Jews – are an opium and have as a consequence the act of generating.

The illusion of progress and confidence in history were two of the wounds that favoured demographic growth and guaranteed the blindness of sleepwalkers. And this is not only because of the discovery of new systems of social organization and new care in the context of medicine, which have helped to lower the mortality rate in the face of a continuous increase in the number of births.

Precisely because power is the ‘father’ – it is interesting that in Post mortem, a work dedicated entirely to the death of the mother, Caraco attributes to the ‘Lord Father’ the role of the negligent overwhelmed by feelings and piety – it encouraged procreation because it always needs new children to resist, to last and to renew itself; He has made the world and religion his favourite companions to secure himself.

To this nature, the author responds with a parricide that replaces the Son (the obedient sleeper) with the anarchist and the nihilist. These figures are, in fact, "the last reasonable and sensitive men among the deaf, who mourn, and the blind, who fight" (BC, p. 107). The roots of anarchism also sink into Gnosis. Showing the red thread that binds the anarchist to Gnosis, Fava wrote that the Gnostic – like the Anarchist and the Nihilist of Caraco – “should not accept, learn or profess what has already been said but be able to discover true interpretations of himself by knowing himself through experience; If he is capable of it, he must go back to his own divine nature by explaining his own existence" and about the mass:

"The Gnostic God is the splinter to which the dissolving of the mass that hides it makes room; it is born only as the overcoming of the overall injustice of the entities. In this sense it offers no comfort to human existence, no code for orientation; It offers only as a principle of contrast and general overthrow of the status quo, according to the rules, methods and purposes of those individuals concerned to make this principle actual with their commitment, that is, with gnosis.
Beyond its religious character, then, gnosis manifests itself as a different, radical, personal, emancipatory, libertarian mode of existence, and that is why anarchism has taken account of it in its structuring into philosophy and political theory."

But the anarchist is far from being heard because humanity is still a child and needs the paternalist power from which the Gnostic instead frees itself. Salvation therefore remains a lonely path for the walker who has encountered the wreath and towards it he heads. This elite component prophesies an almost apocalyptic conclusion in which Caraco prospects the inevitable defeat of the world as a final and decisive stage preceded, however, by an incurable and insurmountable agony. Only then will mankind finally stand up and cry out of grief, some will anticipate death with death, others will deny it. Everyone will be returned to nothing anyway. A sleep this time eternal and without dreams.

Mother, abyss and redemption


Post Mortem is dedicated entirely to the death of the mother. On death and the “Mother Lady” Caraco reflects and returns continually in a writing that returns its total dependence on the mother’s figure but also its hatred, belonging but also the distance that unites him and distances him from such a determining, lucid, fundamental woman.

This Jewish woman, who died from a lung disease and was placed in a chain between civetery and philosophical disposition, occupied the existence of the son, indeed the non-existence as Caraco had to add in the last page of this collection: “My life has never been anything but a page not yet written [...]. My Mother was the only one whoined what I dare not call my existence, her victory is total and I have no flesh except as much as it takes to feel spirit. My Mother has become the altar where I went to offer myself to that principle of which she did not know to be the announcement down here." (PM, p. 119)

The maternal on which Caraco stops and reflects, however, is not only that of the Madonna Mother planted and compassionate by the Lord Father, but also the Archetype of the Great Mother, of the Glorious Mater whose his is only an identification: “The Madame Mother, an unusual person, referred me to Archetype and presented me with an Eternal Mother: Thus, even if the person disappears, he does not drag the Glorious Mother into his own death, the cloud floats in the winds, and the Archetype that she suddenly concealed from us remains forever inamovible.” (PM, p. 97). The Principle.
The Great Mother is an ancient figure found in the most ancient and distant cultures and civilizations in time. The archetype of the mother is a symbol of life, birth and fertility; The one whom Albert, as his son, called ‘mother’ or ‘Mom’ is only the person, the love for whom is in truth a bond with the perfection of the archetype (the first good is a feeling of inclination and not of gratitude and appreciation).

This sense of the eternal comforts the children for loss but is only intuited by the few chosen ones who possess the Gnosis and recognize in it the unity, the origin, the beginning. It is therefore acute, in its irony, the sharp criticism of the feminist movements which, with their works, imply a “progress [sso] only with regard to manifest rights” but as their sole purpose the “making of the woman a subordinate man, merely the abortion of a virility by dubious definition” (PM, p. 100);
the true bond with the Mother is much more original, initiatic, deep.

Caraco's relationship with his mother is, however, philosophical because it was first and foremost existential. From this woman the author has learned the indifference and continence (at the beginning, the author reveals that he does not feel a feeling of affection for the mother also because she castrated him), from her the rejection of love, the chaos and the darkness of the world; Despite the profound and deaf hatred for an original error, the birth, Caraco acknowledges to the Mother a great wisdom through which she had understood the world and had transmitted this understanding to the son who expressed it in his writings and in his philosophy that even the woman, despite everything, understoods, shares, nourishes. Above all, as a mother, she recognized the selfish reasons for her gesture and asked her son to be little indulgence towards her.

The author suggests that it was also the mother who paid the price of this lucidity and of this erosion of the love feeling; The son felt an unusual indifference to him, he didn't shed any tears at the time of her disappearance, and he welcomed death with the coldness to which he had been brought up. This existential peace, which does not cancel the presence of the mother in Memory, also derives from the conviction that death was in the end the true, only and desirable sustainable salvation; the permanent recovery of the wound; the only light before the perpetuation of darkness. Such indifference and distance are therefore a response to what his mother had transmitted to him that, precisely because internalized to the flesh "was not worthy to be propagated. [...] Instead it was our common duty to disappear, so that our sorrows might be buried with us.” (PM, p. 118).

"Thus, if on the one hand the son does not forgive the mother the fact that she has been castrated (whatever this word means in his texts), on the other hand he intuits the latent prevention of this gesture that avoids the spread of further pain.
The pain is everywhere and the first duty is to avoid it, it is the moth of love, love and pain go hand in hand, less we love and less we are threatened, it's true of love to degenerate into triple divisions, so we learn to tremble for others and we carry the chain of restlessness. Our destinies sleep in the eyes of the most innocent virgins, in the shadow of the more enchanting young men the slavery advances in arms, the illusion re-emerges in each generation and the embracers are the perpetrators, for centuries and millennia the only remedy is continence. (PM, p. 85)"

As an eternal figure (the archetype), the mother reveals the understanding of the world because she constitutes its principle. It is the unitary and multiple element from which things arise. It is the impersonal law that regulates the cosmos, the generating and voluntary principle that explains the world, sustains it andins it. Caraco, however, acknowledges the need for the wound when he states: "I have no flesh except as much as is necessary to feel spirit." (PM, p. 119). It becomes necessary to atone for one’s guilt in order to overcome it and the flesh is the place that allows the spirit to know itself and therefore to transcend itself. It is the pneumatic spirit that reveals to him the chaos of self-esteem, the knowledge that allows him to dwell in chaos with patience before overcoming it. The Mother thus becomes the source of light (PM, p. 44) which makes the darkness decipherable to him. The place of fall but also of salvation.

Abstract:
The purpose of this work is to present some of the themes of Albert Caraco's philosophy. In the essay I will focus mainly on his Gnostic thought which is at the basis of his conception of humanity. Caraco recalls Augustine's concept of mass destruction to describe humanity and its tragic end. To avoid this goal the solution is sterility but it is difficult for humanity to such a result; Therefore, it is likely that it will have to deal with its dissolution. I conclude this essay considering the role that Caraco's mother played in his life and in his thinking.

Keywords: Caraco, infertility, gnosis, dissolving
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2024, 03:46:25 pm »
Silenus,

Thank you for sharing and translating this essay on Albert Caraco into English. I will try to read it.

Stay safe.


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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2024, 11:08:19 am »
Greetings my Philosophical Brothers (and Sisters?)!

Thank you for your efforts.  I have been experiencing heavy "ideations" --- leaving out the "S word" so as not to trigger any alarms.   I have lost my desire to impress anyone.  I don't care what anyone thinks of me anymore, and I find myself reflecting on a line from the film, Dead Man, where the Native, "Nobody," tells "William Blake" that this world no longer concerns him.  There is something very comforting in this idea:  That we may have reached that point where we are more focused on HOW TO GET OUT OF THIS TRAP than in strugging to acclimate oneself to it.

I find that the best way for me to read these threads, being homeless and all, is to scroll to the top of the current page, find the PRINT "link" at the top right hand side of webpage.   Once it is in printable view, Ctrl-Print will bring up the print page :  just choose SAVE AS PDF.   Itg will save the entire thread.   

I have had to charge up a deactivated "phone" to use it for reading.   Maybe continuing the slow reading of Caraco will distract me long enough to forget that I just wan to _ILL myself ... How fickle I am!

 ;D

I would have offed myself by now if it were not for how relieved I feel upon realizing that this world no longer concerns me.  I am almost free!

I will try to read some of these threads while in the library, but I also wish to load up a couple devices with data from my beloved multibooting notebook computer.   I am sorry I have not been able to participate here.   

I am coming to terms with this lifetime experience:  that I am the eyes of Schopenhauer beholding the sorry state of this Worst of All Possible Worlds.
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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2024, 08:57:33 pm »
Yes, be sure to save the Chaos Breviary to your laptop; I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Some more Caraco quotes posted recently on reddit's r/pessimism:

If I had to live my life over again, I wouldn't change a thing. I fully approve of what I've done, and I'm immensely proud of myself. It's life itself that I despise, not my existence; it's the principle, not its application, that couldn't have been better, given the circumstances.

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It's because life itself is inhuman that men are not human.

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Who are the most wicked of men? It's the optimists.

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Death is not terrible, life is terrible, but we see things literally and figuratively upside down. The philosopher is the one who puts everything back in its proper place.

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According to Gnosis, the universe is the prison of the species and is virtually embraced by fate, which is reminiscent of Sartre despite all the differences in expression. We enter the world through a gate that requires no explanation: we are the outcasts of women. We emerge from the womb and are thrust into something we didn't choose, which is essentially Heidegger's concept of thrownness. Our mothers cast us into the world, and we awaken as prisoners. When our eyes open, we find ourselves in chains. Our existence is like Plato's cave, where we perceive only the shadows of things.

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The older I grow, the more Gnosis speaks to my reason: the world is not ruled by a Providence, it's intrinsically evil and deeply absurd, and Creation is either the dream of blind intelligence or the game of a principle without a moral.

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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2024, 02:07:08 pm »
I really think you, Raul, and Holden would dig Bradatan's In Praise of Failure:  Four Lessons in Humility.  It definitely zooms in on the Gnostic explanation of our reality.
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Caraco and Davila
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2024, 08:12:04 am »
A short essay found online and translated with Quillbot:


CARACO AND DAVILA: ELEMENTS OF COMPARISON by Philippe Billé

     The few commentators of Nicolas Gómez Dávila have compared him to many thinkers, aphorists or not. Among them, Franco Volpi briefly mentioned a little-known figure, that of the Uruguayan, but mainly French-speaking writer, Albert Caraco. (1919-1971). According to Volpi, “exasperating pessimism” and “intransigence of judgments” would bring Caraco and Dávila closer together, although the latter’s “luminous faith” would oppose it to the “bitterness” of the former. This comparison is fruitful. We could easily establish, beyond the differences of psychology, several oppositions between the two men, from certain fundamental philosophical options, Dávila claiming a Catholicism that Caraco flattered with the greatest virulence, to lighter questions of taste: Dávilla's nostalgia, for example, is mainly directed towards the medieval West, that of Caraco towards the French culture of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. On many points, however, the reader cannot fail to notice the coincidence of views between Nicholas and Albert, sometimes even in the terms used. Below I present a few comparable sentences, concerning:

(Every first quote is Caraco's, followed by one from Davila.)

The petty bourgeoisie: "the race of lords is forever extinct, nobleship finally no longer compels anyone, we are among valets..." (My Confession, Lausanne: The Age of Man, 1975, p. 125) and "There is no longer a high class or a people, there is only a rich plebe and a poor plebe" (N.II.53).


The merits of humanity: "Freedom most humans do not deserve..." (Le seminarier de l’agonie, L’Âge d’Homme, 1985, p 287) and “There are few countries that do not deserve to be ruled by a tyrant” (S.168).


The value of Jean-Paul Sartre: "Sartre... his huge messes are all indigestible..." (Seminary of agony, p. 250) while Dávila ranks him in “the classical canon of my absolute impossibilities” (E.I.174).  ;D


Optimism: "Who are the worst men? they are the optimists” (Semainier de l’agonie, p 247) and “Depressing, like an optimistic text” (S.166).


The sexuality of the mature age: “after forty years relationships seem rather ridiculous to me” (Semainier de l’agonie, p 234) and “Chastity, once youth has passed, belongs, more than ethics, to good taste” (E.II.90).


The human flocks: "where several dozen gather, the spirit moves" (Semainier de l'agonie, p 127) and "The soul is a quantity that decreases as more individuals gather" (N.I.71).


The usefulness of revolutions: “most revolutions are useless: the abuses change camp instead of disappearing” (Semainier de l’agonie, p 43) and “Unnecessary, like a revolution” (E.II.126).


The classical letters: "it is best to fill young people with Greek and Latin, letters and history, the rest leading only to barbarism and not unlocking their intelligence" (Semainier de l'agonie, p 32) and "Reading only Latin and Greek for a while is the only way to disinfect your soul" (N.II.115).


The other: "As soon as you are two, cheating begins" (Semainier de l'agonie, p 26) and "Where there are two there is betrayal" (E.II.260).


Overpopulation: "to make us happy, it requires general depopulation. Fewer children, please, fewer and fewer children is the first duty” (Seminary of agony, p 21 & 24) and “Depopulation and reforestation: the first measure of civilization” (N.II.99).


The garden: “If I were asked about the nature of my preferences, I would humbly say that I would not hate to have a house with a garden” (Seminary of the year 1969, L’Age d’Homme, 2001, p 151) and “Except for a beautiful garden, everything is inferior to our dreams” (N.II.163).


Tourism: "Outside the shows and love, there is nothing in the world that I abhor more than travel and twice since it is travellers by millions, it is the invasion of the Barbarians, which will result in the profanation of the sites and monuments" (Semainier of 1969, p 143) and "The barbarians only destroy; the tourists profane" (N.II.115).


Social ascension: "climbing does not prove that you are in your place once you have arrived" (Semainier de l'agonie, p 21) and "We do not denounce capitalism because it creates inequality, but because it promotes the rise of lower human types" (E.I.128).


Many others could be added."
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Post Mortem (for Holden)
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2024, 10:41:00 am »
Holden,
  Some quotes for you from Albert Caraco's Post Mortem:

"I do not ponder on my life much, this makes me fairly insensitive and I uprooted my complaisance years ago, I am similar to the rock that waves thrash, the sea is grey and the sky black, the clouds fade away and the works stay. I take root in the rejection of pain as well as joy, my love only goes to holy indifference and henceforth I am one with it, my entire life is a school of death, besides I do not have much merit and since childhood I have never felt quite right, a prey to permanent uneasiness and subsisting thanks to remedies."

"Their love for life reminds me of a hanged man’s e-rection and I am not far from thinking it comes from the same source."

"God does not love us and is not an object of love, Mysticism in the end is but Narcissism and the personal God is only nonsense; that the wretches’ need to be comforted proves the wretches’ debasement, not the evidence for the figures they suppose.  The God of the philosophers is enough for me, I myself am a person and I don’t look for personhood outside of myself, I consent to my permanent death and the idea of salvation seems delirious to me, to be saved is to be r-aped metaphysically. Madam Mother preferred Classicism to any form of Messianism, she was saintly right."

On flirtation and seduction:
"The pleasant exterior, the laughs, the games, the trifles and the graces—the foam of the deep sea and under the foam a black world where we do not belong to ourselves, but to the species."

Stay aware.

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Re: A Very Slow Reading of Caraco's Book of Chaos
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2024, 04:58:06 pm »
Reading those quotes had me cracking up in the library!   :'( :D

I consent to my permanent death and the idea of salvation seems delirious to me, to be saved is to be r-aped metaphysically.

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Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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