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Holden

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2019, 03:18:31 am »
Man learns in TV-show, that his fiancé has slept with his best friend, doesn‘t want him anymore, has sold the engagement ring.

Kills himself.

Family says: it‘s the show‘s fault.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6981101/Jerry-Springer-sued-family-man-killed-show.html
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2019, 05:32:47 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for sharing this short horror story. Indeed it is a horror story. Nothing new. One cannot remove oneself from birth. Life is horror as you have said many times.

First of all I don´t think you are a little tortoise that crawls and crawls. I am not the person to tell you how to react in self-defense. But a tree is a weapon, a pen is a knife, a chair is a shield and you can smash
someone´s head with a printer. It is not advisable to understimate you reaction.

Stay safe.

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #62 on: May 11, 2019, 02:06:02 pm »
Thanks ,Senor Raul.This world is a disaster area and what ever political solutions folks might come up with ,are little more than bandaids.

Take care.
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #63 on: May 11, 2019, 03:38:21 pm »
Holden,

Yes, this world is a disaster area.  The human drama has no solution at all. Even if there is an annihilation of the homo sapiens, well, that does not mean this monstrous experiment will stop. It may be an interruption but not the end of this madness.

This planet is under the rule of sociopaths and psychopaths. Maybe you saw this film, American Psycho where the character Patrick Bateman (Chris Bale) has no empathy for anyone. But also the common people, me, are demonic clowns. We also destroy, plunder, kill and maim. It is in our nature.

Stay safe.

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« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2019, 12:27:42 pm »
Mr.Ibra,

I quite understand that in an orthodox society like that of the middle-east, it must be very difficult to stay as a bachelor.I want to tell you that Indian society is no less orthodox ,at least my parents  are very much so.

Their heads are full of unexamined and unanalysed assumptions.
In a world such as the one we have got in our hands, who in his right mind, would agree to get married.I believe that marriage is the height of optimism.That the bridegroom is giving a thumbs up to the world,to existence and is agreeing to perpetuate it .Generally speaking,I am not a kind man, but I am not so hardhearted either, that I'd bring forth my own kids in this hellish place. I would much sooner swing using noose.

On second thought, noose is really not how I'd like to go. I would like to turn the existence against itself, and let the stomach, which has digested so many things over the years, digest itself.

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2020, 06:18:06 am »
So long as the Church was rampant, only the madman enjoyed the favors of the regime, he alone had the right to put an end to his days: His corpse was neither profaned nor hanged. Between ancient stoicism and modern “free thought,” between, say, Seneca and Hume, suicide suffered—aside from the Catharist interlude—a long eclipse, a dark age in fact, for all those who, wanting wanting to die, dared not infringe the ban on putting oneself to death. Cioran
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2021, 05:23:55 pm »
I found a pdf file of Cioran's On the Heights of Despair

"Why am I on this earth? I feel the need to cry out, to utter a savage scream that will set the world atremble with dread. I am like a lightning bolt ready to set the world ablaze and swallow it all in the flames of my nothingness. I am the most monstrous being in history, the beast of the apocalypse full of fire and darkness, of aspirations and despair. [...] My symbol is the death of light and the flame of death. Sparks die in me only to be reborn as thunder and lightning. Darkness itself glows in me"
Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2021, 07:05:12 am »
Herr Hentrich,
Sorry I could not respond sooner. I was bogged down with a great deal of office related work.

I hope your body aches are getting less intense and that you are being able to get proper sleep and eating nutritious food.

I think you would have liked the kind of weather India has, generally,because here,except for the region around Kashmir, winters are not very severe, well, certainly not severe when compared to how cold it gets at your place.
Maybe you could think about getting some kind of inexpensive space heater,if you do not have one already.When I was at a place where it used to get very,very cold, I was making use of two space heaters in the room.

I also hope that you have managed to get back to your mathematical endeavours. I think I am beginning to see how mathematics could be a source of endless fascination.
I think the reason I seek as much solitude as I possibly can is because it is the closest thing to being dead while still being alive, if you know what I mean.

Like your father mentioned your cousin getting promoted at job, my father mentioned a friend of mine, who was with me in the college back in the day.Well, he is studying in Pace Univesity now,which I believe is rather close to where you are.Also he has been given scholarship by his employer( a big consultancy firm).It is the same guy who was trying to get me to join their Whatsapp group. Now, personally I have nothing against the man. When we were studying together, he was one of the few people who helped me out when I was sick( during my pancreatitis related hospitalisation I told you about) and he is quite genial. He also has two kids. He is the only friend of mine whose wedding I attended(in 2011) because he was kind to me during our time together in the college.

I think the reason he wanted me to join the group was because, indirectly, he would have been able to inform me about his scholarship by way of a general message in the group.Anyway, the chatterbox that my dad is, he,I guess,talks to this guy more than I do, and so during one of their converstations he told my dad and he told me.He thought I would feel jealous or something or it would motivate me to work harder in some weird way.
Well, here is how I look at it, my friend maybe closer to you,geographically, I am closer to you “philosophically”, and that matters a whole lot more. Also, I would rather study at “ Hentrich University” than at Pace University.

Take care.


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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2021, 08:59:04 pm »
Free copy of Minority Interest by Martin Butler :
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