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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2017, 10:51:39 pm »
My school and college teachers/profs. though I believe they would want it very much-cannot hurt me any longer as I am not physically accessible  to them.Same applies with regard to my previous employers &bosses.
When I am dead-no one would be able to hurt me no matter how much they would want to do it.
When I am dead,I want to stay dead.
Sorry if I am not posting a lot of things in the wrong thread,I am ,on most days,in a state of such high anxiety that my hands are almost having tremors,and I am too agitated to look for the right thread.

Advise for the kindred spirit:Never dabble in stocks.They are not for the like of us,but for the kind who can keep having one baby after another and never break a sweat.
If one of the Schopenhauer's disciplines  is forced to invest at all ,due to untoward circumstances, let him do so in a fixed income annuity, and never mind the rate of return.
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2017, 01:21:59 am »
Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2017, 12:59:00 pm »
Thanks for the links.I checked out both of them.The comments on Benetar's write up were quite good.I bought his book in 2011. It was very expensive then.But I bought it anyway.


https://youtu.be/sQN76Vv-nVw
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2017, 01:26:55 pm »
You know what,I read all the comments below Benetar's write-up and I have to say that some are them are pretty nifty & illusion-inducing-for someone who has not read Schopenhauer. With Schopenhauer as the gold standard ,it becomes rather easy to sort  the dross.
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 11:18:10 pm »
I have watched that very same clip a few times before while scanning ZooTube for AUTHENTICITY.

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2018, 01:19:17 am »
I just sent my nephew a link to The Trouble With Being Born.

Maybe it will help.

Cioran was an ironist.

I learned from Schopenhauer what the difference is between irony and humor:

"If the joke is concealed behind seriousness, the result is irony.  Accordingly, the opposite of irony would be the seriousness behind the joke, which is humor."
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The Fall Into Time
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2018, 01:40:03 am »
I want you take take a look at the following links, and I saved the best for last!

1. A m a Z o n

2. ABE BOOKS

3. eBay

4. Library Genesis
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2018, 01:50:45 am »
https://www.haneswinereview.com/about/hanes_philosophy002.pdf

This may be interesting.Thanks for your links.
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2018, 07:30:55 am »
I've read Phenomenology of Horror by Trigg awhile ago thanks to Library Genesis, but I would like to read through it again sometime.   Did you find anything in it particularly interesting?  I know you are intrigued with the malignant indifference of the universe.

As for the paper above, I am quite certain I have read this paper, but I will definitely read through it again today.

" [...] We will contrast Schopenhauer's concept of intentionality with its parallel in the works of the “father” of 20th century phenomenology, Edmund Husserl. This will hopefully
(a) show where Schopenhauer can help correct defects in Husserl's approach and
(b) tentatively point to where Schopenhauer can provide a fresh alternative to the better known critiques of Husserl promulgated by Martin Heidegger and Jacques Derrida, among others. "

Yes, father of phenomenology, indeed.

I like to think of Schopenhauer not only as the grandfather of the psychology of the unconscious (the gorts give Freud all the credit, of course); but also as the grandfather of phenomenology.

But, who has time for bickering over credits when we all so rapidly slip into the void?

Thanks for the link. 
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2018, 02:01:25 am »
What I found interesting was the possibility of asking you the question that as you have been studying mathematics a  great deal, have  you discovered any invariant phenomenological structure in the conscious experience of the mathematical studies?
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A Letter (Senor Raul)
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2019, 12:26:20 pm »
Senor Raul,
I found the following by a  man from  an  African country  who goes  by  the name of Nihilistboy,I'd like to share with you:

A Letter  To  My Unborn Child by  Nihilistboy-

Stay right there,sweetheart.It's not safe here.
Daddy loves you!


Also,my apologies  to  all the members and readers and guests of this message for my random posts-the  fact is  when  I get off the work  I  am so tired  and exhausted that I can  barely find my house ,let  alone the   relevant  thread. I  try my best. But  if someone finds the  posts random,my apologies.

Keep  well,Senor  Raul,please take care   of  your  eyes.
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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2019, 07:26:35 pm »
Holden,

Please do not apologize. You have priorities there. Thank you for sharing Nihilistboy´s words. The man from Africa. I read that more than one million children and adults die from AIDS in Africa every year.

Daddy loves you, says the Nihilistboy in the letter. I often see mothers kissing their children. Soon these same mothers will be weeping for them. Soon their offspring will experience the burden of life. Soon they will become farm animals like their parents. They won´t even have the right to exit this jail called Earth. 

On Saturday afternoon I saw four teenagers on the avenue. They were not smoking regular cigarettes. They were smoking some substance wrapped in paper. They looked at me. But I went my way. Will they reach adulthood? Who knows?

I read last year an interview with a Paraguayan female doctor, Lourdes Zelaya, head of the mental health department of the pediatric hospital in Asunción. She said that those adults who suffered mistreatment and abuse in their childhood and adolescence will have suicide attempts, post traumatic stress, psychosis, personality disorders, dissociative disorders, anxiety, depression, toxic substances abuse and alcohol. It also leads to prostitution and pregnancies.

The doctor said that 20 % of the adults who suffered abuse will replicate these violent episodes with their children. When they reach adulthood these people may have problems with their roles as parents and are unable to protect their children.

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Re: Trouble with Being Cioran
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2019, 03:53:08 am »
Senor Raul,

"The only reason why I flatter myself, is that I understood very early, before the age of twenty, that one should not procreate. My disgust towards marriage, family and all social conventions has its source in this. Crime is to transmit one's frailties to someone else, to force someone to experience the same things we are experiencing, to force someone to the Way of the Cross that may be worse than our own. I could never agree to give life to someone who inherits misfortunes and evil. All parents are irresponsible people, or murderers. Procreation should belong only to brutes. Pity makes you not want to be a "progenitor". This is the cruelest word I know." (Emil Cioran, "Cahiers 1957-1972" ["Notebooks 1957-1972"], 1997)

"If I was a believer, I would be a Cathar." (Emil Cioran, "Cahiers 1957-1972" ["Notebooks 1957-1972"], 1997)



Keep well.
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