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Senor Raul ,
Please check this out:

so many vaginas, stomachs, c-ocks, snouts, and flies you don’t know what to do with them … shovelsfull! … but hearts? … very rare! in the last five hundred million years too many cocks and gastric tubes to count … but hearts? … on your fingers!…

~Céline

Senor Raul,
Thanks for your message.I am truly sorry that you have had to suffer a lot in your life.You are a good friend and an even better thinker.You know when you refused to accept Dawkins neutral approach to the world and said in effect that this world is far from neutral in fact it is a hell ,well,that speaks volumes about your deep understanding of the nature of existence.
Plato all his life kept writing about the Good ...but just before his death ,in his last major work called The Laws he feels compelled to posit an entity which maybe described as Radical Evil..
The reason why Schopenhauer outshines the otherwise brilliant Spinoza is that Schopenhauer refuses to buy the neutrality non sense.
Kant himself has something to say about radical evil but I have yet to explore it fully.
Have you seen any exorcism or possession movies.Well,in some scenes the possessed girl is walking on all fours backwards or hanging from the roof of the room..and making strange guttural noises and that’s the true nature of reality which the analytic philosophers refuse to accept.

I have come face to face with Radical evil this week and my encounter has only strengthened my belief that Schopenhauer was 100 percent right.
More on radical evil soon..
Take care.The members of this message board are especially vulnerable because unlike the gorts we understand...and if there is one thing which Radical Evil hates..its folks like you ,people who Understand.

Holden,

Thank  you once again for your words. Life is suffering and I am no exception. Somebody asked me if I saw a movie about a motivational speaker called Christopher Gardner who came to Paraguay in 2015. Actor Will Smith played the role of this man. When asked I replied that I did not see that film and I was not interested in that kind of films. I don’t want to hear anything about the so-called CEO of Happyness.

I am just a scribbler in this board. You, Hentrich , Ibra, Silenus and other readers of this blog are real thinkers.

Yes, I saw some movies about exorcism. The one I remember is the famous The Exorcist, later The Exorcism of Emily Rose based on a true story in Germany with Anneliese Michel. I saw The Rite played by Anthony Hopkins based on a book by Matt Bagglio. I saw an interview with Father Gabriele Amorth, chief exorcist in Rome who already passed.

Although this is not  directly about exorcisms I saw many years ago The Serpent and the Rainbow about a US. anthropologist in Haiti before the ousting of Baby Doc Duvalier in 1986. The story is about trying to get a powder that supposedly has the power to bring humans back from the dead. It is about walking zombies, rites and curses.

I read that in the Syrian Civil war four years ago sarin nerve gas was used in attacks on urban areas. Torture and execution are common on both sides. Snipers compete to get cigarettes by shooting pregnant women through the belly. If I were born there I could have been a victim of sarin or a sniper shooting or leaving the country and end up on a boat.

Please look at the picture in this link. The man being handcuffed is Marcos González.
He was recently sentenced to 30 years in prison for raping and killing two little girls. This terrible event happened in Ciudad del Este, on the triple frontier with Brazil and Argentina. But last night hooded inmates savagely and brutally killed him in the Regional Penitentiary.

Yes, this is the Paradise of the Demons.

Stay well.

https://www.extra.com.py/actualidad/treinta-anos-carcel-violar-y-asesinar-dos-ninas-n2835797.html

Hentrich,

Thank you for your post. Always important.

I read that a tribe called the Ammonites burned children to death as a sacrifice to, Moloch. The tribes of Israel, after driving the Ammonites away followed this practice themselves – offering their own children as sacrifices. So in my view Moloch must be very happy in seeing slaves being brought into this world every single day.

Drive safely.

At a certain age, as a child, I considered the possibility of befriending the "evil monsters" in my nightmares.    If only I merged with this One, I would no longer fear it.

The hunted becomes the hunter?

Holden, I do not mean to belittle the imagery in the film, the Exorcist.  The film had a deep impact on me, but much of it was of a comical nature.  No, the real "evil" may be rooted in a rage within, an enormous well of anger and collective frustration.

I have found that giving "the noodles in your head" (Captain Howdy?) something to tinker with, it may find some solace.     Kill, eat, kill, eat, is what we are programmed to do.  We and all animal life are radical evil.  Plant life also has this creepy-crawling roots sucking water, growing nature ...

We are all creeps.  I wake up agitated and somewhat WEIRD every morning.  No amount of religion or "spiritual practice" will make my encounter with consciousness any less disturbing.

Strong espresso coffee helps.  Lots of cheap pipe tobacco which I roll into funky little cigarettes.

I think you will be OK Holden.   There is only One.  We are this thing, whatever it is.   You want to bark?   You want to growl?

Give the demons some mathematics to study, something specific.

While Schopenhauer sneered at computing, stating correctly that machines could be programmed to deal with such drudgery, there is a certain challenge to the intellect to develop an understanding of the interface between human and machine, and there is some fascinating mathematics and semantics involved.   

Sometimes I may be most evil when I simply acclimate myself to the overall pointlessness of existence and devote my energies to staring this truth down every morning I wake up.   I would like to become more and more evil, if evil means understanding a little more.

I want to become more evil so as not to be mocked, taken advantage of, disrespected.

Is this true?   I am just talking nonsense in our private little "Yard Out" Jailhouse style university of 5 or 6.

I felt obligated to inject this peculiar suggestion, that we need not fear all evil is barking, blind, and in a rage.  Maybe evil is not what we think it is, and perhaps evil is not all bad.

Hmmm?   What am I saying?  My apologies if any of my nonsense is offensive.   Holden has given me so much lee-way (?) that my free-style psychobabble sometimes reveals glitches in our languages.   How I do love philosophy!   I could not survive the mornings without it.

The creature will fight to find time to study programming and looks forward to stumbling upon something having to do with mathematics.   May I take courage and use a sharpened pencil as a weapon if I must.  I prefer to communicate with "the species" via words and symbols.  I don't care for us up close and in my face. 

May our message board continue to be fertile ground for our own nonsense.

Again, I do not wish to discourage the exploration of radical evil.  I am only wondering if maybe evil has gotten a bad rap over the years, and that maybe Nietzsche was on to something when he suspected we have been domesticated into unrecognizable animals from what we were.

The thing is, we are all freaks.  Some are closer to the animal-fertility essence (where the universe is orgasm), whereas others may be drawn more to the abstract mental universe of mathematics and philosophy.    To each its own ...

You don't need an excorsim, Raegen, just a better math book.

"Captain Howdy!"   

I am more overwhelmed by the misery of having to eat food in order to sustain animal existence.  This constant redundant cycle oozes misery to its core.  No wonder the larger picture, the so-called objective Natural World appears to be such a monstrosity.  It's a bloody graveyard.   The sun rises on gruesome reality.

When you were a child, had you ever "hated" your parents?   Do you think there might be more than a little resentment towards them for being the vehicles of your present incarnation?

I prefer to innocently investigate my true feelings so that I might come to know some peace before I die, to see it for what it is, no more, no less.

I love to study, but as we all know, as Silenus reminds us, all our "projects" are dependent upon sustaining our animal bodies, which are dependent upon birds and the bees doing their nasty things to flowers, which many find to be "wondrous" and "magical," and a few find to be weird, creepy, alien ...

Such are the burdens even a handful of simple men like us carry on our shoulders while pondering what on earth shall we do with ourselves but continue to eat ... eggs, bread ...

In a real sense, since I have access to electricity and water, I am insulated from the true nature of my reality by this gargantuan apparatus which I have very little comprehension of.  Yes, we are all quite mystified by the technologies we depend upon.

It is humbling to investigate and try to understand what we can. 

We have access to more information than kings of old.   While life is a miserable experience, ending in utter humiliation, degradation, or horror most often, there is a certain type of man or woman who might be drawn to numbers, number theory, arithmetic, algebra, etc ... in older times who would be in awe of the algorithm-oriented programming methods flying around the stratosphere these days ...

A poor man would be wise to spend his life studying these technical wonders, and let the so-called wealthy businessmen go to war over the price of slave-factory produced sneakers and smart-phones-for-dumb-suckers.

It is the Power of Mathematics which compels you!  (Ibra?)


The demon is a liar.  It will lie to confuse you.   

We are human animals, and it sure isn't easy to be such a creature.  This awareness alone might produce compassion for our fellow-sufferers-in-the-chains-of-biological-necessity, but, more often than not, we are too overwhelmed with anxiety-fear-worry-drama to allow ourselves this luxury.   In reality, it is difficult to even share a tomato or two.  Part of me wants to just turn them into sauce and share very little with others.   

This is part of my nature that made "using street drugs" so problematic.  I would become ashamed of my own "greed."

This monster is wired into the fiber of our being.   Speaking in poetic terms, there's a good chance we are all "in there" with Reagen. 

Where my take differs from Hollywood's is that this poor devil is to be pitied, not feared.  Feel the innermost misery and agony of eon after eon of rebirths.  Cut the formalities and just groan as Cioran suggests.

I groan often.   Is one considered evil just for acknowledging how it actually feels to be the creature one is?   Is one obliged to sugar-coat it?

The most powerful three words are the ones I remember most about Schopenhauer's philosophy:  life is evil.

The problem is, and you will forgive me the technicalities, but what Husserl and Frege (and Korzybski of Non-Aristotelian General Semantics) were going on about with the Foundations of Arithmetic, or even the basis, is the differences between IDENTITY and EQUALITY.

The statement, "Life is Evil," involves the is of identity.  I don't believe Schopenhauer actually penned that, but that one of the chapter headings in "The History of Philosophy" about Schopenhauer was "Life as Evil."   It was one of the first things I ever read about this Arthur we are now so familiar with.  I tell you, Holden, encountering such a writer immediately transforms the subject into a protagonist in a Lovecraftian tale.  We are confronted with the great unknown.

Even Schopenhauer and the great Kant, as well as all of us, of course, are subject to the limitations imposed on our mental representations by the language we use.    Our verbal descriptions are no less abstract than algebraic equations.  I'm afriad I prefer technical texts with exercises on how to apply "generic programming" to (eventually) scientific computations.

Surely you are on to something with the Radical Evil, but as you know, I am leaning more and more in the direction of the technical, computational, and non-moralistic aspects of observing and investigating reality.

The words Radical and Evil are both loaded with pre-existing abstractions, such as the term, Absolute.

For the remaining years of my life, I prefer things I can grasp and understand, not emotionally charged abstractions.     

By the way, it is wonderful that we have different leanings on this matter.   It helps me respect why I chose the more humble yet rewarding path that I did (going over the more advanced high school mathematics, incorporating programming).  I did not want to waste my mental energies reading required reading of other men in other times.    There are some heavy, dry, highly technical texts which promise a deligent scholar challenges and growth.

I thought it extremely important to make the heroic efforts to kindle my interest in the computational and technical, so that I might master some kind of craft for my own benefit, my own use - you know, to develop mathematically-oriented command line software assistance, to just be me.   I do not regret devoting myself to the algebra physics-based mathematics.  After all, Holden, the great Kant had mastered these early, and yet I am nowhere near being in his league.   This does not mean I do not delight in witnessing the mathemeatics that confused me as a young man being to make more sense as I age, as I have never stopped trying to understand.

My relationship to computer programming has always been fueled by my love and respect for mathematics, which does intimidate with its vastness.   We ought never be ashamed of approaching a subject at a level we wish, whether more or less advanced, more or less technical, more or less philosophical.   

I suppose life can be described as evil because pain and want are what motivates we poor devils to do what we must do to get food in our belly. 

Cioran did not care for reading Kant.   I did read some in my twenties, and yet I felt it was empty religious "required reading."    I do appreciate clarification on the noumenon and phenomenon, and sometimes I forget just where I picked up what.

I'm for defusing the exoricism by going into codemode and respecting the difficulties faced in some simple tasks.   I prefer the technical to the mystical.

In fact, sometimes the technical sort of feels a little mystical, especially when something begins to click.   No matter how much I owe to Schopenhauer for teaching me true philosophy, and no matter how much I respect his decision to focus his mental energies entirely in the riddle of existence itself, what gives me a rush these days is getting a handle on exactly what it is I understand about the general structure and methods of algebra, analysis, etc, and to see how creative I might become with respect to applying generic (algorithm-oriented) programming techniques to some scientific hacking around, tinkering as you call it.

This is kind of like science-fiction, where I am working simultanously in 1965 or 1988 with rigorous set-theoretic notation and in Modern C++ with programming with Templates and Concepts.   In the theoretical "pure" mathematics, we have the real number line, the number systems: Integers, Rationals, Reals, Complex, etc ... In C++ programming, we have types int, double, and all the classes we create.

You can see how related the abstractions become, and how we might be excited to discover how we might go about translating our ideas into code that machines can handle, so that we might build command-line programs to assist us in specific and particular cases.   This is the sci-fi aspect of it.   

I understand that the commodifaction of scientific education in our Industrialized World has left a bad taste in your mouth concerning all things "technical."  The types of personalities drawn to the industries driving mathematics education in the world may display antics you equate with pissing contests, "intellectual prick-waving contests."

I concede that I am also repulsed and alienated (actually, quite marginalized) by such elite academic circles.

What I strive for is to keep adding kindle to the fire that is my lifelong interest in mathematics since childhood.  Philosophy superceded this for a good chunk of my life out of necessity; but computing and computing technologies, especially during the late 1990's with the development of computer algebra systems like Derive (transformed/purchased by CAS in TI-Nspire as well as the TI-92/Voyage series) lit a big chunk of fuel in this fire.   In other words, computer programming and other consequences of the branch of applied mathematics called computer science, for me, is intimately connected to the continual revival of this authentic interest in mathematics and computing.

There is little place for my morbid day to day philosophy in such a technical community, and so i am merely an outsider, peeking behind the curtains to see if I might learn the craft on the down low.   

Forever groaning,
just another pooping computer

Senor Raul,

Thanks for being kind enough to respond to me.  I want to tell you that when I was going to the office in the morning today, on my way, there is a college. And gathered in front of it are a lot of students almost every day. Young men and women in their late teens and early twenties. They are so full of life.

And then there is this man ,a homeless man with a big tumour on his forehead who eats,excretes and lives right next to the college. He can barely walk. He crawls all the time.

I first read Schopenhauer in earnest in 2014-15( mostly 2015) and it is only now that I am being able to comprehend him properly.
We are trapped in a silly and absurd game and the problem is its painful as hell.
I really am a misanthrope ,Senor Raul. I want to be as far from people as possible.

Every single man( need I add "woman"    ) wants to kill everything else. That's the harsh and bare truth.
Lovecraft ought to be transferred from the fiction to the non-fiction section.