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Re: Hitler's Suicide-Wagner-Schopenhauer
« on: October 01, 2015, 12:52:08 pm »
Exactly. Paradoxically, rather than being a denial of the Will, the suicide may be seen as an assertion of a supremely dissatisfied Will.  This is why, in our past discussions, I have pointed out how diametrically opposed my response to being born is to that of Hitler's even if I sympathize with the monstrous magnitude of his frustration.  From my earliest readings of Nietzsche I had a slight disdain for Nietzsche's dismissal of Schopenhauer.  I found his betrayal of Schopenhauer unforgivable, and I never saw Nietzsche as a "progression from Schopenhauer" but as a digression, whereas Cioran can be seen as a progression ... 

If I trace through my earliest notes, I just might be able to discern that I may have been exploring Nietzsche prior to discovering Schopenhauer.  Regardless, while I collected Nietzsche's works, as soon as I started reading Schopenhauer, I left Nietzsche on the shelf.   Only after checking out Kant and Hume (to understand where Schopenhauer was coming from) did I check out Nietzsche again.

Nietzsche praised Schopenhauer as a great Teacher of mankind.  Then ... boom, he does an about face.   Hitler too.  He is all into Schopenhauer in his youth, and then abruptly abandons that view ... embracing Nietzsche's Will to Power.  It's rather fascinating what a vital role one's "philosophical leanings" have on the "unfolding of history", although, as I think we all will experience in our raw flesh, blood, and bones, Nature is the opposite of History ... All these grand narratives will be swallowed by the Great Abyss of Nature ... in time.

What you posted here is also related to our sensitivity to the significance of Hitler choosing Nietzsche's Weltenshuung over Schopenhauer's.   Since Hitler has more than enough detractors, I don't exert too much energy pointing out the fundamental defect in his character: a tragically strong will ... I will neither partake in psychoanalyzing Hitler's deep inferiority complexes or subconscious fears of genetic annihilation by "more sexually virile peoples".   There are plenty of scholars and psychoanalysts up to that task.   See Francis Cress Welsing.

On the other hand, we may find that, as a specimen under our microscope, Hitler can tell us a great deal about his counterparts who are our contemporaries.  They can be found in all walks of life, in every people, in almost every family.   We could start an entirely new thread exploring the phenomenon of "the strong will" and how it is lionized, how we are to bow down and pay homage to the strong-willed and view those with no inclination to dominate as being "weaklings" - one of Hitler's terms which make me question his judgment. 

I will like to start a thread about the roots of fascism, how it spreads ... usually manifesting as a war of the "lower" (as opposed to "upper") working middle class against the "poor" and "unemployed freeloaders" or "untouchables".   

There are many tangents one could go on from this post.

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With this it becomes absolutely clear that Wagner and Hitler's ideas are absolutely diametrically opposed to one another. For Wagner, Salvation for humanity could come only by awakening to the root of all evil in the Blind Will - and to deny it. For Hitler, his mission was the ruthless assertion of the Triumph of the Will at all cost, and the fanatical assertion of the Will to Live even as his Empire crumbled around him. He ended it all by finally committing suicide.

Several thoughts are triggered by the above quote:  Wagner's falling out with Nietzsche - was it based on Nietzsche's opposition to Schopenhauer?   I had read that Wagner and Nietzsche had been friends in childhood.  That's a whole 'nother can of worms.   

Other thoughts:  It will be a very lonely path for he or she who opposes this Blind Will.  You will not be elected as some high official or be chosen as the team captain.

It will be futile to convince others that total annihilation is preferable to "survival at all costs."  The times are ripe for xenophobia, and a clever politician could easily manipulate the masses by tapping into their fears of genetic annihilation:  In both hemispheres, west and east, whether North America (USA, Canada) or Europe (Spain, Hungary, France, ... , Germany, ... , etc), the peoples of the southern hemisphere are heading north.  It's even been referred to as "The War of the Womb".

Soon they will be telling citizens that it is one's patriotic duty to reproduce!  (SS Baby Factories, Inc.)

From the looks of reproduction rates, it would appear that there is an unofficial and international movement to gently lean into extinction by not replacing current deaths with births ... 

 And yet ...

"But there is something in us which tells us that this is not the case: suicide is not the end; death is not absolute annihilation."

In that case, is the disappearance of one's genetic type really absolute annihilation?

Is the disappearance of one's entire species really absolute annihilation?

Let's apply our mathematical thinking to this quandary.

Suppose one wants out of this situation.

Is there a way out of this situation?

Meanwhile, another student runs amock on a people-shooting spree ... Daniel Quinn was right about making a graph of these massacres over the years and noticing their exponential growth.

It seems that the youth are finding the world as it is not fit for living in.

One should be commended if one can get through it with doing minimal harm to others.

It helps for discover a certain amount of pleasure in solitary studies, but I suppose not everyone is wired that way. 
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