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Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2020, 04:46:21 pm »
Senor Raul,

My thoughts  have no weight and like feathers in the wind they float hither and tither.I wish to gather them together and present them to you.

Thank you for your kind words..I am feeling better now.

You often mention the Cathars.Just today I came to know that ,unlike most Christians and like most Hindus,the believed ,not in final judgement but in reincarnation.

Take care.


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The Cathars: We are beings from other worlds.
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2020, 06:54:32 pm »
Holden,

Thank you for your response. Here it is just a matter of time to get hit by the China bug. So far we have had 205 deaths, if we are to believe the numbers given by the Ministry of Health. Next time I will be one of them.

I read about the Cathars a few years ago. It was a book written by Stephen O´Shea. Then I read a book by a Spanish author, Antoni Dalmau, who wrote a novel on the Cathars. I underlined a few paragraphs:

“Unlike what Catholics preached in the temple, everything, from time to time, was governed by two principles, one good and one evil. He also said that this earthly world - and everything visible: the sky, the sea and the fish, The sun, the moon and the stars, snow and rain, all living things-was the work of the evil god. On the other hand, beyond that world of corruption and evil, where life is so precarious and painful, where wars, epidemics and death reign, there is another formed by incorruptible spirits that the God of truth and justice had created at the beginning of time.

At the beginning of all things, the Evil One set out to rise to heaven and establish his throne there because he wanted to resemble the Most High. It was a great battle, terrible and bloody, but Satan was defeated and fell, and there are those who say that in his fall the crystal firmament containing the Earth and the seven heavens that the devil himself had created was broken. Thus, the Prince of Darkness was forced to remain for years and years at the gates of paradise, always thinking and striving to enter. Until one day, using surprise and deception, he managed to penetrate the kingdom. There he addressed the spirits created by Heavenly Father, convinced them that they lived in subjection, and offered them earthly goods that they did not know. In short, he made them believe that they would be like gods.

In this way, Satan dragged a third of the creatures of Heaven, which fell like a thick rain, more stuck than the tips of the fresh grass of our meadows. So it happened for nine days and nine nights and, along with the spirits seduced by the foreign god, there were others who fell carelessly, as if dragged by a kind of vertigo. Until the Father of Heaven, warned by the faithful spirits of what was happening, rose from his throne, set his foot above the hole through which the sinful spirits slid, and warned those who remained that, if they moved, they would NEVER EVER REST; and the falling spirits: "you may go, for the time being."

Once fallen to Earth, the heavenly spirits remembered the good they had lost and grieved for the evil they had encountered. Seeing them so sorrowful, the devil told them to sing a song to the Lord, as they had custom. They answered what we read in the Psalms: "How can we sing songs to the Lord in a foreign land?». There was even one who turned without fear to the evil God and asked him, " Why did you deceive us and make us leave heaven to follow you?
The devil answered him that they would never return to heaven, for he intended to cover each of those spirits with a robe of skin, made of land of oblivion, from which they could never get out: bodies of flesh in which they would lose the memory of the goods and the joy they had enjoyed in heaven.

When the time of grace came, God sent his son into the world to preach his father's Kingdom. That is, he came to remember the heavenly homeland to the Sleeping Souls and prisoners in the fur robe and to teach them the liberating gesture that could return them to Eternity and free them from evil and time. This gesture of freedom and salvation is the baptism by the spirit, the Consolament, which Christ transmitted to his apostles with the laying on of hands.

Stay well.



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« Reply #77 on: August 25, 2020, 04:40:37 pm »
Mr.Silenus,
 I hope you are doing well.I am reading Cioran's Tears and Saints.
The fact that you do not view employment as the most important thing in life is very inspiring.

Ciroran in New Gods writes something to the effect that all political systems are superfluous, once one begins to exist then there is no cure for that.

I hope that in the future too you would continue to look down upon wage slavery.

Take care.
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Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Reply #78 on: August 26, 2020, 04:22:52 am »
i had been held in a state of psychiatric incarceration since 08 August and was released just after noon on 25 August

and so it goes


a copy (precious to me) of Cioran's The Trouble with Being Born was stolen by a spontaeous disciple (i don't mind) while i was transferred to hospital from asylum after passing out from "psychiatric medication" ... we are Generation Guinea Pig and I wish to declare some kind of spiritual/intellectual/psychological/emotional Insurrection


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Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Reply #79 on: August 26, 2020, 05:41:04 am »
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« Reply #80 on: August 27, 2020, 02:57:23 pm »
I am very sorry to hear about this sad episode. I hope that you were treated properly by the staff and the doctors of the facility.I also hope they took requisite precautions against the virus and that there was someone to look after your mother in your absence.

I hope that they leave you alone now to study mathematics and programming and to think deep thoughts.

I reckon, it must have been quite agonizing for you.I am glad that Cioran was there with you ,to keep you company.I was thinking that maybe you are occupied with certain mathematical problems.

Well, you know it far better than I do, life is a tricky business.You should try to get over this episode.It might help if you write about it.Writing seems to help me.Its very therapeutic.You introduced to me it back in the spring of 2014.

I hope your garden is okay. The plants would have waited for your return.As Cioran say and you also say, being a plant could be such bliss.

Being a human being means,as the Buddha tells us,mandatory. I would only add that the suffering could be of two kind-it could be voluntary and it could also be involuntary.

Most people choose the latter. They are dragged into the mire by the goddess of suffering,kicking and screaming.But there are some,who, embrace the goddess,who,to use a very precise word, acquiesce.
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A Song for Herr Hauser
« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2020, 04:27:34 pm »
This song reminds me of you, the 'fighter' in the last paragraph.

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Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Reply #82 on: August 28, 2020, 04:57:27 am »
Just to let you know, I have printed out this entire thread and have been reading it carefully from the beginning.  It is all quite powerful and the only material that can get me through long dark nights of the soul.  Thank you few great souls for your sincerity and generosity in posting such deep thoughts.  I am stunned that such a phenomenon as this exists, and hardly can take credit for it.

Peace.

PS:  Thanks for the song.  Musicians are really pulling me through these days of World-Pain.



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« Reply #83 on: August 28, 2020, 05:12:33 pm »
Hi Holden,
  I made a personal vow to work as little as possible and to remain poor for the rest of my life. And no doubt there will be times when I do have to work, but I never hesitate to walk away from any of it.

 I think there has always been something of a contrarian in me: while many see success in being a careerist, having a car, material worth, etc., my success is in having wanted none of it.

 The common look of success here is that of exhaustion. The common feeling of success here is the accumulation of monetary debt. I don't know how our Overlords were able to convince people that debt is a necessary "part of life," but they succeeded. As Gary in Mendham would say, this civilization is barbaric. Sometimes I fantasize of walking in it's ruins.

 When I was a child, everyone warned me of the dangers of slipping in poverty. But one can learn to see it as a "blessing," especially in a mad-cap world such as this.

 I hope you too will break the shackles one day, even if it is for just that one day. Be well.

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« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2020, 05:06:24 pm »
Senor Raul,

Thank you for the message.Clearly you are very learned. A maid servant supposedly once told to Cioran that she only believes in God when she has a toothache.
Pain,suffering, agony, that is our lot.

When I see around me I manage to gather together many reasons for believing in a Tormentor, not even one for believing in a good God.
Not one reason. Those Cathars were right,but of course, they were brutally exterminated.

I sometimes like to think of the first human being who might have come with the idea of a good God.What farce!

As a kid I was taught that man is a social animal.If that is true that I am clearly not a man ,for  I am anything but social.

I feel like King Lear,betrayed by his daughters, he is in the middle of a storm and raves and raves..

Take care.
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The misery of the human condition - Pope Innocent III
« Reply #85 on: August 30, 2020, 07:08:35 am »
Holden,
Thank you for your response. I am not learned. I wish I could read and learn like you. I only underlined some interesting paragraphs from this Spanish author, Antoni Dalmau about the Cathars. Author Stephen O´Shea wrote the following:

“For the Cathars, the world was not the handiwork of a good god. It was wholly the creation of a force of darkness, immanent in all things. Matter was corrupt, therefore irrelevant to salvation. Little if any attention had to be paid to the elaborate systems set up to bully people into obeying the man with the sharpest sword, the fattest wallet, or the biggest stick of incense. Worldly authority was a fraud, and worldly authority based on some divine sanction, such as the Church claimed, was outright hypocrisy.”

Others say that “since the commandments are the instrument of the Evil Creator to keep the light trapped in the bodies, the Gnostics systematically commit the most unimaginable sins. They practice Christian rituals, such as Mass the other way around, and by sinning in this way, they believe that they exhaust all the possibilities of matter, thus they should no longer be reincarnated in another life. The more they sin the closer they are to breaking the cycle of rebirth, a cycle that condemns man to the Earth. By sinning, you can return to the kingdom of light, which is up there, beyond the tenth heaven. The most serious sin for them is procreation.”

The not so innocent Pope Innocent III who ordered the Cathars exterminated also said the following about the misery of the human condition:
 
. . .with tears in my eyes I shall take up first what a man is made of; second what a man does; and finally what man is to be.

. . . . Man was formed of dust, slime, and ashes; what is even more vile, of the filthiest seed. He was conceived from the itch of the flesh, in the heat of passion and the stench of lust, and worse yet, with the stain of sin. He was born to toil, dread and trouble; and more wretched still, was born only to die. He commits depraved acts by which he offends God, his neighbor, and himself; shameful acts by which he defiles his name, his person, and his conscience; and vain acts by which he ignores all things important, useful, and necessary. He will become fuel for those fires which are forever hot and burn forever bright; food for the worm which forever nibbles and digests; a mass of rottenness which will forever stink and reek.
 

One thing is clear and that we are only pawns in this prison planet.

I think that you are a menace to your mindless fellow human beings. You think too much and you write dark thoughts.

Take care.

P.S. You and the readers of this blog may find the full text of Pope Innocent III below in the link.

http://home.ubalt.edu/ntygfit/ai_03_illuminating_love/ai_03_tell/innocentIII_misery.htm


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Re: A Question for Herr Hauser and Senor Raul
« Reply #86 on: August 31, 2020, 12:09:38 pm »
Raul,
  Thank you for the text of Pope Innocent's. I think it is interesting how he writes like a Gnostic and meditates upon death as one, yet ordered the extermination of the Cathars. I wonder if he hated the truth of his own thoughts so much that he desired to kill others who shared in his grief.

Take care.

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« Reply #87 on: September 01, 2020, 04:00:07 pm »
Mr.Silenus,

I found your vow to be most interesting. Would mind telling me how old you were when you took the vow and what was the chief reason for doing so.

Sometimes I think of the 19th century Russian Nihilists.They are portrayed almost always as restless and believing in nothing.
One of my aunts died today. Cancer. I met her by accident about 6 months back in a hospital. She was frail, and was about 61 years old.

Dead.What was that all about? A life filled to the brim with misery. She leaves behind two daughters and a husband. What ,I wonder, is the meaning of her corpse?

I must confess I do not understand this world. The question which is pertinent here is the reason for my incomprehension. Is it because I am not sharp enough to figure out what its all about, or is it because the world, fundamentally, irrevocably , is irrational.

One of her daughters is a dentist. She fills tooth cavities.But this existential cavity which devours everything,how is that to be filled?
It only keeps getting bigger, it keeps getting deeper.

Keep well.
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« Reply #88 on: September 02, 2020, 01:43:17 pm »
Senor Raul,

Thank you for the message. I gather from it that men,like us, have been trying to comprehend this world, this existence, for thousands of years. As I have written before, about the age of fifteen, there was a marked change in my consciousness.

I gained a great ability to "suffer". I spent many a night, ignoring my school books, trying to figure out the cause of my ailment. Little did I know then that this was to be a quest which would demand a life time's worth of effort.

In shipping, according to an ancient custom, the captain of  a drowning ship, can honorably go down with it too.I won't abandon my ship.When the waves come to take it in their eternal embrace, I would still be on it, ready to go down to the unfathomable depths with it.

This ,our Resistance,against,not  something as puny as the State but  the very nature of being itself, will leave a dent. A deep dent.

What I find particularly harrowing is the sheer number of people in the city, millions and millions of them, living in the streets,malnourished.But I am no Gandhi-I don't intend to be.

What we are up against is nefarious and its very noxious too.

Take care.

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Innocent III and Albert Caraco
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2020, 07:19:03 am »
Silenus,

Thank you for your response. I hope you are allright wherever you are.

For Lotario dei Conti di Segni aka Pope Innocent III the pope was “the sole earthly guardian of absolute, irrefragable truth. Disagreement with him was not dissent, it was treason.”  But no matter how poweful Innocent III was, in the end, like any human being he became a pile of bones.

He uttered: “Every cleric must obey the Pope, even if he commands what is evil; for no one may judge the Pope.” I read that Francis of Assissi swore obedience to him (he swore obedentia et reverentia). He was the pope who ordered that Jews and Muslims should wear special dresses so that they could be distinguished from Christians. He also mandated that Jews should not be appointed to public offices. The Fuhrer followed this example seven hundred years later in Germany.

Are we not at this moment wearing face masks like the yellow star worn by the Jews before going to the slaughterhouse? Are we not buying the tickets to get on the trains taking us to our updated Auschwitz, Treblinka or Sobibor?

I found Post Mortem by Albert Caraco in Spanish. The book is easy to read but difficult to translate into English. Below are some paragraphs:

Mother has died, I had forgotten her quite a while ago, her end restores her to my memory, even if it is for a few hours, let us meditate on this, before she falls into oblivion. I ask myself if I love her and I have to answer: No, I reproach her for having castrated me, really very little, but in short I inherited her temperament and this is even more serious, because she suffered from alkalosis and allergies, I suffer from them even more than she does and my ailments are countless, and besides... she threw me into the world and I profess to hate the world. 


I rarely reflect on my life, doing so awakens my sensitivity very little and I removed my complacency years ago, I am like the rock that the waves beat on, the sea is gray and the sky is black, the clouds pass and the works remain. I cling as much to the rejection of pain as to the rejection of happiness, I love nothing more than absolute indifference and now I am confused with it, my whole life is an apprenticeship in death, of course I do not have much merit and since I was a child I have never felt completely well, a prey to permanent malaises, and I subsist by dint of remedies.


So I will be a miserable?  As a Jew I apparently had to be, and most Jews are unfortunate, that is why they profess a delirious optimism, their love for life reminds me of the erections of the hanged men, and I am not far from thinking that they have the same origin. The rejection of the tragic, typical of slaves, and for too many centuries the Jews have been no more than that, that mentality allowed them to survive while making them perfectly ruinous, they consented to abjection in order to keep the garment, and they kept it, despite the abjection and those who imposed it on them.


Stay well.