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Re: A Question About Philosophy Books
« on: May 25, 2018, 09:41:30 pm »
I had given some thought to your request, and I kept thinking "Robert Pirsig".

I read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance at age 17, the summer before my last year in high school.  I then read Lila when it was released in 1991.

I am not sure this would give you any clues, but it probably did have an impact on my thinking.

What I wanted to suggest is something that both of us may have overlooked.   Much of my "reading" consisted in reading my own notebooks.  The writing of the notebooks is what I picked up from having read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance at age 17 - a very impressionable age "they" say.

What impressed me is that the author, Robert Pirsig (true story, an autobiographical philosophical novel) had gone insane and then had received electric shock "treatment" --- and years later he was able to reconstruct his "identity" and thoughts by reading his old notebooks.

I used to joke around with myself saying that I could always do the same thing if something similar were to happen to me.

Pirsig had gotten fired from his job (philosophy professor), lost his wife, and went clinically insane trying to prove that you can’t define Quality.

Maybe it is not important that you rush to read his two books; but, instead, that you commit yourself to writing your own ideas down so that you can go over them.   I know that we do some free-style writing here that might normally be placed in a private notebook, and I would like to continue reading your posts here.  The thing is, there may be restraint and self-censorship since we are, after all, writing in a public manner.

The kind of writing I am suggesting is the kind that you write for yourself, to yourself, as notes to a future self, if he should survive.

The reason I am keeping so may math notes these days is because I am actually sober.  This is no joke.  On the decade+ long binge, my hands would shake in the morning, and all I could do is listen to loud music and talk into a tape recorder.   I sent you the H-Files.  They must be incredibly annoying and boring to listen to.

Once in awhile I listened to a couple recordings, and it made think I might enjoy talking to myself in the woods while drinking down the alcohol poison until I became possessed by Pazuzu ... but, really, no matter how thrilling it might be to scream and sing and howl at the moon far from the town ... when I emerge from the woods, I would be unfit for human society and most likely would draw enough attention to myself to be subdued by the police and brought in for a modern day psychiatric exorcism.   

So, if you were a drunkard, i would suggest a recorder.  Since I can sense you are a coherent and clear headed man, I will suggest that you keep some kind of notebook.  Maybe you might learn a method from reading Lila, where he wrote on index cards and organized his thoughts into categories, rather than trying to write in one sequential series.

I've been doing that with the math notebooks these days.   I keep several notebooks going at once.   Tonight, since I want to take a break from "analytic geometry" based problems focusing on conic sections, I will begin a new notebook for "continued fractions" even if I only take notes and work on problems in it for about a week.  It will have been started, and I can return to it, or not. 

So, the bottom line is, I have spent a lot of time talking to myself or writing to myself.  Like I said, all my math notes are to myself in the hopes that I might help myself when I need the help.   Likewise, for most of my life I had kept notebooks so as to keep my head together.   Even when in a long relationship, I would write things that I might not even want to discuss with "her".   She was jealous of my relationship with my own "internal demons".

I am not afraid of these demons.   They are me.  We are legion.

These days I do not get too hung up on writing for anyone else but the consciousness in my head, just some notes to help him each time he wakes up.

Whenever I was in jail or a psychiatric hospital, I would want paper and pen. 

I would continue the story.

I like to take notes from books.

Surely we have been keeping such a notebook here, but it is an open notebook which anyone can contribute to.   I feel fortunate that we are each able to communicate here, or to work on this public kind of notebook together.

Just be sure you experiment with your own notes as well.

It doesn't matter if you take many notes from other books.   That is what it takes sometimes to give a particular notebook a kind of "magical glow," like some book written by the Mad Arab, Abdul Alhazred.
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