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Holden

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Re: The H/G Conspiracy Against the Gorts in Charge
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2019, 08:39:09 am »
Artaud says Gachet ,his last doctor,killed Van Gogh. He says he has read his letters in great detail and that there is no doubt that Dr.Gachet was responsible for Van Gogh’s death.
In one of his last letters Van Gogh writes:

“I should like my nephew ,my namesake ,to have a soul less unquiet than mine,which is foundering”.He writes” I think we should not count on Dr.Gachet at all.”
Employers of Theo were creating trouble for him. Reducing his paychecks. Disparaging him.

He writes(Vincent): I try to be cheerful, but my life is threatened at the very root and my steps are also wavering.I have painted vast fields of wheat under troubled skies, and I did not need to go out of my way to try to express sadness and extreme loneliness.”

“Adeline,could still remember the scene more than sixty years later in 1953 interview for Les Nouvelles.”My mum said to my father: You’d better have a look,I don’t think….Vincent is well.”
After van Gogh shot himself he remained in the same room for more than 28 hours. He first of all did not ask for Dr. Gachet but another doctor. The other doctor was not available so Dr. Gachet was called in. The nearest hospital was about 60 miles away and Van Gogh could have been sent there but apparently no one was bothered. Least of all the doctor.
It is also to be noted that Van Gogh did not exchange a single word with the doctor though he was still capable of speech.

The doctor’s daughter ,Marguerite, seems to have suffered some kind of nervous breakdown upon Van Gogh’s death and never married. She lived the life of a recluse.
I tend to agree with Artaud. There is something suspicious here. Today something nice happened, while I was tinkering with maths, I came across a geometry problem wherein I had to find the ratio of the white space and the dark spaces( the circles has different patched of the dark), while at first it looked daunting to me, my brain, on its own, could rather easily find the ratio. It felt nice.
Most people who know me think that I would be quite incapable of ever grasping any kind of mathematics. Well, this slave has been hiding and working on little maths problems and is beginning to get the gist of it all.The problem is my life is too volatile, so I cannot say,what, if anything, I will be able to share with you in the future. But if the fate grants to me live even as long as Van Gogh did, I promise you, I would share things with you,mathematical and programming related, which would ,at least to a small degree, compensate, all the help you have been kind enough to extend to me for more than five years now.

But like I said, things are very volatile.Mathematics per se, was never a problem. It was just that I really wanted to figure things out first.

Artaud writes” And so a vicious society has invented psychiatry to defend itself from the investigations of certain superior lucid minds whose intuitive powers were disturbing to it”.
“In its asylums ,society has managed to strangle all those it has wished to rid itself of or to defend itself from,because they refused to make themselves accomplices to various flagrant dishonesties.For a lunatic is also a man whom society has not wished to listen to, and whom it is determined to prevent from uttering unbearable truths”.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
-van Gogh.

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Re: The H/G Conspiracy Against the Gorts in Charge
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2019, 01:00:22 pm »
 
Herr Kaspar and Senor Raul,

A few years back I was hiding in a hotel room reading Artaud when my office colleagues were under the impression that I am on some kind of a date. Yes, I must be insane in their book. But I am not interested in reading their book.In my youth I was between the devil and the deep blue sea. On the one hand,they made me believe that I was no good as regards maths and on the other hand, I hated people, I just couldn’t bear to work in teams. Now after about one and a half decade, the goddess of mathematics has taken pity on me and has extended a helping hand to me.

I still hate working in the teams though. I am certainly not a people’s person. No doctor can cure what I have. Hell, the doctor was surprised how well I could articulate my own ailment and I think, a little, annoyed, because I forgot to play the patient.

Yes, I am patient, but not the doctor’s, I am patient with maths, slowly but surely, I am beginning to learn and it is a wondrous realm. I don’t care what others think of me, I know, that if I really concentrate and if I have the right books with me, there is very little indeed that is beyond one’s comprehension.

But I got side tracked. I was telling you about reading Artaud in a hotel room in the fall of 2016. What I found very appealing in Artaud was how boldly he wrote. He did not care about who thought what. I think he spent many,many years in asylums and yet they couldn’t quite break his spirit. Not quite.My parents often wonder as to how I became such a pessimistic man, such a strange man when compared to my cousins. They think its because of the books I study. No, really,no. I was born this way. Books only gave voice to what resided in my very core from the start.

But,Herr Kaspar, I am sorry to say that, the history is not in favour of me, what I mean is that, most of the people with my kind of ideas I have read about,kicked the bucket before they could share their discovery,with their friend. So, I don’t know. But I really would like to share a couple of math and programming gems with you.We will see, won’t we?
 



La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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Re: The H/G Conspiracy Against the Gorts in Charge
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2019, 01:19:44 pm »
"For me, it is perpetual pain and shadow and the dark night of the soul, and I have no voice to cry out with." - Artaud

He was the first writer I encountered that ran up against the limits of language. A truly contradictory effort he made, but only a "madman" would undertake such an effort.

"And the strict master Death bids them dance."

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Re: The H/G Conspiracy Against the Gorts in Charge
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2019, 08:28:20 am »
Holden,

Thank you for both of your posts. I know nothing about Artaud but your comments about this Frenchman are very interesting. Certainly this man was a complete outsider. Outsiders are not welcome in this prison. The system wants everyone to be  prudent inmates, not rebels.

No doctor can cure a person from the horror of life. As I see it, many see me as I am a patient that needs treatment. They may not be doctors but most also have their own prescription or cures to “save” me or someone else. I must be saved from the failure of accepting responsibility for living.

Some wonder also how I have pessimistic views. They also think it is because of some books I read. That is understandable. Millions believe that being launched into this so-called ocean of life is the best thing in the world. It is better to be than not to be. 

I shave using old-fashioned Gillette razor blades. Few use them except the elderly and people like me. It would be easy to use them to cut my wrists and then let them bleed. But the will to life is strong.  I am also in denial of death.

Lying is what we do. I lie also.  I read that according to a research, people tell a lie every eight minutes, making a total of 200 a day on average. A study of 20 people fitted with microphones at the university of Southern California quoted in The Sunday Telegraph found that the worst liars were those who had the most social contact or were forced to make demands on people, such as getting information.

Shop assistants, doctors, receptionists, politicians, journalists, lawyers, sales representatives and psychologists all fell into this category.  Psychologist Gerald Jellison, who conducted the research, approved of lying, saying it was crucial to the functioning of a normal society. "Society would be terrible if people started telling the truth. Anyone who did would be a subversive."

Stay well.

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Re: The H/G Conspiracy Against the Gorts in Charge
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2019, 09:02:58 am »
 "Society would be terrible if people started telling the truth. Anyone who did would be a subversive."

Fascinating idea.   In the morning when I am feel subversively honest, some of my real feelings feel actually kind of liberating.   I don't like many people, and yet there is a strained kindness.   

Being an honest man in such a world might even be considered a disability.
Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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