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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2017, 10:39:03 am »
Herr Holden,
Yes, now I understand that English is your first language, not Hindi. Not only are you more of a loner than anyone but also more alien to your Indian environment. Clearly a lethal combination. It is also true that Hollywood shapes the minds of people. I read that the word Hollywood has its origin in magic,that is, holy wood, used by ancient priests. The only time I saw a movie made in India was about the airlift of Indian citizens during the invasion of Kuwait by Saddamīs forces in 1990.
Donīt we all have a traumatic psyche? The thing is that you dare admit that while most are afraid of even telling the truth to themselves. All of us suffer from a traumatic psyche and added to the bitter experiences that we have in life. In my case, my father had a very ugly habit: you see he enjoyed beating me with his belt and ridiculing me and my sister and my mother too. He also vented his frustration and anger at us. So I cried in my sleep and I had nightmares. Now I silently weep for realizing the madness I was brought into.
Yes, relatives probably complain about my staying single and above all staying poor, out of a job, for being a burden to society, for not contributing. I and my sister are the only ones who have not gotten married and had bred.

Life after death? Truly I donīt know. Thatīs the greatest mystery. We are creatures seeking meaning so most think that death is not the end and that of course death will be conquered and all of us will go to another place.
Lovecraft is only known in the literary circle. There were articles on his life and works and the man, I donīt remember his name, who drew his works.

Cricket and Bollywood,eh? Here is soccer(football),work and parties. Most here donīt know that the origins of modern soccer was in Scotland where people kicked the  skull of the prince, the tyrant. So instead of kicking the presidents, the ministers or the kings, people kick a leather ball. Stay safe. 

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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2017, 07:43:16 am »
Herr Holden,
I donīt watch movies. I heard on the radio that there is a movie called "The Man Who Knew Infinity" with Dev Patel and Jeremy Irons about Srinivasa Ramanujan Alyangar. Maybe when you can, watch it and later tell me what you think of the movie. Stay safe.

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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2017, 04:05:21 am »
Senor Raul,
Thank you for your comments ,yes I have heard of that movie. Though I am not quite a math genius like Ramanuja,but I do appreciate his dedication to mathematics which way much like that of Herr Hentrich.
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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2017, 06:15:34 am »
If we want to know what human beings, morally considered, are worth as a whole and in
general, let us consider their fate as a whole and in general. This fate is want,
wretchedness, misery, lamentation and death. Eternal justice prevails; if they were not as
a whole contemptible, their fate as a whole would not be so melancholy. In this sense we
can say that the world is the tribunal of the world (World I 352).
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2017, 06:26:40 am »
In a particularly forceful passage of WWR I, Schopenhauer declares that those who see
through the principle of individuation will not be consoled by momentary respite from suffering.
Having recognized the true nature of things-in-themselves, “there arises in him a strong aversion
to the inner nature whose expression is his own phenomenon, the will-to-live, the kernel and
essence of that world recognized as full misery. He therefore renounces precisely this inner
nature …”
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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2017, 08:31:38 am »
Seņor Holden,aka Mr.Odd,
Thank you for your words. So our "fate is want,wretchedness, misery, lamentation and death." Forgive and forget my ignorance, all these misfortunes that human beings must suffer from cradle to grave, to what end? We have no say in this sorry affair; we do not matter at all. Why all madness if we are insignificant creatures? Is suffering really important in this universe? Does it matter that we humans harm other humans and that we do not care at all? In my little world here, what is the cosmos going to lose if tomorrow I end up in a coffin? Nevertheless we are serving a horrible life sentence in this dungeon called Earth. I silently smile when we humans think we are superior, the jewel of creation. When I look at myself in the mirror, I see a human demon. Do demons die?

You write: "the world can be disgusting, but it can also be quite beautiful, and it is as we make it. "It turns ugly the moment we become a participant/player".
Do not we all become participants/players the moment we are born? Im  sorry I know I am of a low intelligence. Now that my body and mind are decaying and I see others going through the same genetic process; there is nothing beautiful. But we pretend not to see all this. We humans are hopelessly addicted to lies and self-deception. Keep well.

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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2017, 04:06:09 am »
Senor Raul

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"the world can be disgusting, but it can also be quite beautiful, and it is as we make it."
This line is by Forthebirds,I am merely quoting him in the other thread.

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all these misfortunes that human beings must suffer from cradle to grave, to what end?
Well,maybe so that one learns that one should not desire life.

 
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Why all madness if we are insignificant creatures?

Again,so that,after taking into consideration this mayhem and madness,one may decide one does not "WiLL" life after all.
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In my little world here, what is the cosmos going to lose if tomorrow I end up in a coffin?

If that were to happen then, I,for one,would certainly miss you. I think you have had a successful life as you have not sired anyone, also, as you have chosen to deny life.

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Do demons die?
A very profound question.Yes,life,or to be more precise,the desire for life, is a veritable demon.
Can the demon die? Well,no one and nothing can kill it.But what happens when the demon decides to embrace self-annihilation?

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Do not we all become participants/players the moment we are born?
I agree.You are right.However,I have experienced certain moments,while reading a book or listening to a sonata when I  lose the self-hood completely.It is as if I & the art get merged.

But yes,these moments don't last long.5 minutes at most. Then,one is back in the midst of black mud.
That is why I say that while art may bring  temporary relief ,it is only when one says no to life ,for good,that that one might finally find peace.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2017, 07:05:50 am »
Herr Holden,aka Mr.Odd,
As always I appreciate your comments. Many years ago I read one of David Ickeīs book, I donīt remember the title. But I remember that he said that the English Queen was not human but reptilian. I suppose "reps" means that, reptilians. Of course I can be wrong.
 
You say: "Well,maybe so that one learns that one should not desire life." So we have to go through all this nighmare in order to not to desire life.

You also say: "However,I have experienced certain moments,while reading a book or listening to a sonata when I  lose the self-hood completely.It is as if I & the art get merged. But yes,these moments don't last long.5 minutes at most. Then,one is back in the midst of black mud.
That is why I say that while art may bring  temporary relief ,it is only when one says no to life ,for good,that that one might finally find peace."

To lose self-hood completely must be an extraordinary experience even if it lasts very little.About art, in this case paintings, are there any works by painters that caught your attention?

Maybe you saw this film,"The Night of the Generals" with Peter OīToole and Omar Sharif. In one scene a German General,played by OīToole, starts looking at the painting by the Dutch Vincent Van Gogh and he is completely immersed, lost in the picture. Keep well.
 

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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2017, 08:01:38 am »
Senor Raul,
I do admire van Gogh a great deal.Not just his art but also the purity of his dedication towards his calling.
I have read a couple of books about him.
I think his life in a way personifies Schopenhauer 's philosophy of art.

Did you know that he was humiliated almost everyday during his last year on earth?The kids in the street ran after him calling him the "Red Haired Madman".
He died penniless and now people mint millions out of his art.

I try to hide as much from the people as I can but you see one cannot stay hidden all the time.One is forced to get outdoors to earn one's living,get groceries etc.

All in all a very sad state of affairs.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2017, 10:47:11 am »
Seņor Holden,
The reptilians, specially in human form,are much more dangerous specially in positions of power. A sorry affair,  Vincent Van Gogh died penniless and his works are worth millions.I saw once a painting in a magazine by a Norwegian named Edvard Munch.  This also reminds me of Lovecraft whose books are sold all over the world and making millons.What a horrible joke!

If your coworkers still complain you are odd, tell them you need to have a low profile because you are an undercover agent for RAW (Research and Analysis Wing). Your contacts are in a faraway places like New Jersey, USA and other countries. Stay well.

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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2017, 01:33:10 pm »
That is  a very good suggetion :).

Is privatisation rampant in Paraguay?
It is going to be very messy here I reckon.
I have observed that the voters don't think about their economic self interest at all while voting.Most of them are concerned about social issues.

Is the Right Wing the dominant force there?

Well,is no hope.

Keep well.


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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2017, 02:50:52 pm »
Seņor Holden,
Thank you for your comments. I think you could be a fine intelligence agent. I heard that there are troops moving in Sikkim. A neverending crisis with the Chinese. Of course all this turmoil is prepared by the powers in the shadow to keep everyone distracted.

Yes, here privatization is being implemented slowly but steady. We already have the public buses run by private businessmen with very bad service. In some parts of the Central Department you have to get water from private companies. Public hospitals have underpaid nurses and doctors, sometimes no basic medication, no syringe,no aspirins, few ambulances, poor building structures. In the countryside children have classes under the trees. Sometimes the comisarios (chiefs of police) provide escort for drug traffickers. Thatīs privatization too. These days the government is trying to implement of sort of privatization of the national airport. In the border with Brazil, the politicians want to establish a big casino in a state property.  Sooner or later the private companies are going to charge your for breathing the polluted air.

Left wing or right wing are just the same. Brute power has no wings. You already know that.
Once I heard someone say that if votes could change anything voting would have been forbidden a long time ago. In Paraguay the ruling party is the Asociacion Nacional Republicana (National Republican Association) better known as the Colorado Party. Horacio Cartes, a very wealthy businessman, often accused of tobacco smuggling is the President of this devil forsaken country. Stay safe.

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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #42 on: July 18, 2017, 10:53:28 am »
Senor Raul,I agree that there are dark forces underlying any political or social arrangement.
The political reality is not structured in a rational or logical sense.We are profoundly not at home in the world.If politics essentially consists of blind striving &if it is something over which we have no control,then we are stuck in a world with no real progress.
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Re: Stabs in the Dark: Attempted Aphorisms
« Reply #43 on: July 18, 2017, 03:25:01 pm »
Seņor Holden,
I hear the word progress all the time. Progress to what purpose? There is of course progress in,for example, in kiling each other. In times past we killed each other with machetes, spears and bows and arrows. Now we do it efficiently with satellites,missiles,genetic weapons, drones that can kill you by just pushing a button, robots. You saw Robocop? Very soon you will have them patrolling the streets. Here the politicians, the journalists,the lawyers, the intellectuals love to use that word. I often think that even drug traffickers and sicarios use the word progress. All is pointless.Of course you cannot tell people this ugly view because they think that what they do and think matters and impacts our world and our present and future. Most want to attain a little power just to have an illusion of meaning and purpose in life and a little fame. I often hear some narrow -minded politicians convincing themselves they will achieve a change in society. Humans always attracted to lies, self.-deception and manipulation. Stay safe.   

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To Senor Raul
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2017, 04:06:32 am »
Senor Raul,
Very sorry for the late response. I was out of whack.
You are about the only sane man I get to talk with.
Have you heard of the Logical Positivists?The Logical Positivists believe that only the phenomenal world exists..that there is nothing behind the surface of things-sort of like-what you see is what you get.

Do you believe that too? Or do you believe that beyond the surface of things -there is a hidden world as well...and while we can never come in direct contact with this hidden world,the surface world can give us certain hints about the hidden world.
La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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