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Murderous Resentment
« on: July 24, 2018, 10:35:48 pm »
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way." -Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle


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When I allow my thoughts to wander, and I think of people I have known, I imagine that there have been many people who strongly dislike or even hate me, people who experience pleasure at the thought of me suffering throughout my life.

Sometimes, it could be right in the midst of working through some math exercises, which I do frequently, sometimes I hate them back.  And in those moments I understand why someone might hope against hope that there is some kind of Powerful Supernatural Force which might exact a thousandfold vengeance upon those who have had ill-will towards me.

In other moments I find myself wondering if all my studying might come in handy in some unforeseen circumstances.

"They're all gonna laugh at you, Carrie ..."    >:(

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 01:54:06 pm »
I found an example of the kind of attitude that invokes murderous resentment in me.  I'll refer to this as the corporate slave mentality.

It's a comment from a thread, Notes on Discrete Mathematics from Hacker News.  It was posted only 38 days ago, and to put it to good use, I'll leave it here as a perfect example of the mentality that gets my goat.   Notice the last sentence, Deeper command of these topics really doesn’t yield economic returns to your effort in almost all cases, unfortunately..   >:(

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I studied so much discrete math in undergrad.

Characteristic polynomials, rook polynomials, derangements, counting, recurrence relations, elementary number theory, elementary p-adic numbers, logic, geometric series, abstract algebra.

I have never needed any of it, and never faced a situation where knowledge or intuition in those topics helped me to think differently about a problem, never faced any type of computational complexity questions that I didn’t solve just by looking various things up as-needed.

The only thing discrete math did for me was help me boost my GRE math score to get into a good math grad program, where I switched to machine learning and MCMC topics.

Very occasionally you might encounter a simple permutation or combination counting argument in a paper or something, but it’s rare.

I enjoy discrete math, but really felt misled about it’s actual usefulness in almost any corporate software / research / engineering job.

If you don’t know this stuff but you can grok most basic counting arguments after looking a few things up on Wikipedia, you’ll be fine. Deeper command of these topics really doesn’t yield economic returns to your effort in almost all cases, unfortunately.

corporate software / research / engineering job ::)

Mr. Big Shot living in the Grown Up World

The attitude I despise is:  Don't waste your time studying anything which does not yield economic returns to your effort.

And THAT is what I refer to as corporate slave mentality.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2018, 05:56:07 am »
When I solve LCM and HCF problems I like them quite a bit. I like to solve LCM & HCF problems because they are always the same unlike my psychopathic colleagues. They really want to suck me dry.
I really do think that life is all about a malignant pattern. A pattern that keeps repeating.Impregnantion is really a very fast process in what it does not take a lot of time or effort.But the baby suffers for a long time. A penal colony. Everyday when I climb out of the sub-way I come across a very dark glass ,which is quite big and reflects the staircase. Well, the reflections in the dark glass make me feel as if I lived earlier too sometime in the 1950s. That I was in some sort of ball dance event & something really terrible happened there which caused my demise. Sheer imagination. But quite freaky.


To like in a penal colony one must accept two things-that one has no liberty and that one will be punished quite randomly. The prisoners can be punished whenever the prisoner feels like beating them up. A girl came to the office today –she was selling some sort of credit cards & was very good looking.I think she was flirting with me. Have you ever seen an Anglerfish? Google it.It catches its prey quite shrewdly. The lady was playing with her hair while she talked with me. No doubt I find good looking women to be quite tempting. But I know too much. I know the malignant pattern. The repeating malignant pattern. From time to time I check the por-n sites out.Yes, the beast within wants its pound of flesh.
Its cloudy outside. No sun out or anything.Just honking of the vehicles. A couples. Thousands upon thousands of them.LCM & HCF does not interest them. I have observed that most of the philosophers of the western cannon were also deeply interested in mathematics. Just any observation. Nothing more.In 1918 Kafka was doing with literature what I am doing with philosophy and mathematics.
People really dislike me a lot. The other day one of the woman in the office shouted at the top of her voice”Secrets, Secrets, Secrets” at me-meaning I am a very private person. Yes, well, it the these folks who refuse to face the reality,the reality that we are less than nothing and that all we ever do is suffer and suffer terribly. They want me to share my “girlfriend’s/wife’s” pics with them & that of my kids & of the “tours and travels”. I hardly travel from one part of my room to another-just not worth it. Someday I will disappear. Or not.  I do not think mere physical death is enough to calm the beast. No,Sir. Not enough at all.
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Re: Murderous Resentment
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2018, 08:12:00 am »
Hentrich,

This system for slaves orders everyone to study only what yields economic returns to your effort. This advice is ccrap. I have heard so many people utter this bbullsShitt. They just parrot what they have been drilled into their brains. I also parroted this until I realized the madness I was brought into.

We do not waste time, i.e. we waste our lives studying and working for the establishment.  That is what most call “life”.
But that is considered a high virtue. What about this Artificial Intelligence that will replace the next generation of human beings? What will happen to these institutions of high learning? Will these teachers, professors, etc, become obsolete? I suppose the elite will still have some use for some humans to adjust the screws of these machines.

Stay safe and drive carefully.

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Re: Murderous Resentment
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 08:25:44 am »
Holden,

Indeed, as you say, we live in a penal colony called Earth. And we are all beasts. Even the most peaceful man or woman has a wolf/hyena inside. I know a relative who from time to time complained about my reading of "dark or pessimistic" books. And yet she watches a documentary about murders in the United States from time to time. She does not watch soap operas but she watches these documentaries.

Do people dislike you? You are very strong or resilient to endure this so-called life. When time comes and tough times come, you will prevail. If they want a picture of your wife/girlfriend, show them a picture of the goddess Kali. All those skulls around her. As you said we are all living skeletons. Or as they say in American English in the U.S. for those inmates in the death row, "dead man walking".

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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 10:20:09 am »
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What about this Artificial Intelligence that will replace the next generation of human beings? What will happen to these institutions of high learning? Will these teachers, professors, etc, become obsolete? I suppose the elite will still have some use for some humans to adjust the screws of these machines.

Raul,

I remember during a drunk way back in the 1990's, when I was mowing acre upon acre of grass (on the Toro machines), I would babble about self-driving lawn mowers which would be programmed by an "Automated Maintenance Technician".  He would ride them over an area in "record" mode and "save" the pattern to a name designating the area.

Also, I imagine that among the first innovators of the automated workforce will be Fast Food King McDonald's who would replace most of its work force with "Automated Food Prep Technicians".  There will always be a need for the human animal to oversee and maintain, to program, and to go to jail if the store burns down or if a child gets chopped up by the robotic blades.

As someone who dabbles with computer programming on a regular basis, I imagine the potential for disasters and mishaps is endless.

To err is human, but in order to really fuuck shiit up, you need a human programming a machine. 

One day they will program machines to program machines.  Machines don't type a comma when they mean a semicolon; but I see no way to secure against errors of different kinds.

No labor saving device has ever really saved any labor.   Think of nails and hammers.

They need factories to produce the nails, right?

Robots are building cars, but we like to think that humans engineer them.

It is more likely that these automobiles are designed by "corporate software."

But, I digress.  I like to talk negatively with you before I muster up enthusiasm for spending as much time as possible cultivating a deeper understanding of a few topics which cultivate absolutely zero economic return.   

Thankfully, for the time being, I am able to get some groceries and help the mother pay the bills required for us to live indoors, entirely by the grace of the federal government's social security funds.

You know, one always hears about the need for the work force to be replenished, which is why governments secretly encourage immigration when their "native" population is not breeding fast enough to fill all the redundant positions in the service and sector. 

And yet, what shall the future management do with the restless human animals on their plantation when they have less need for them?   Will they invent busy work?   Will everyone become a police officer?

In one of HG Well's science fiction stories about the future, there were only two options:  unemployed or police officer.

I guess the Criminal Underworld and Shadow governments shall inherit the earth, huh.

Tough break for the meek, not to mention the kahKah-RRoaches.

As for teachers and professors being replaced by Artificial Intelligence, I don't see that happening, although there may be repeated failed attempts to do so.  Maybe there will be a movement toward home-schooling and self-learning; but, remember, most "schooling" is focused less on education and more on obedience training, the instillation of consumerist values, and other "socialization".


Holden, you make a good point about your enjoyment of calculating least common multiples and greatest common factors.  I like to appreciate how prime factorization is related to both.

When finding either least common multiple or greatest common factor, do you not always list the prime factorization of each number?

I really think you would like the gcd(), lcm(), and factors() programs.  You would really get a kick out of creating such programs and then using them.

I could see these among the first motivations for you to code.

See our post here:  Math: A Reason to Live?

I have a command line lcm written in C++ (adapted from Python code) which takes several arguments.  Code often reveals intricate relationships, such as how the lcm code depends on gcd, including it as a subprogram within itself.

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// C++ program to find LCM of n elements
#include <bits/stdc++.h>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
typedef long long int ll;

// Utility function to find GCD of 'a' and 'b'
int gcd(int a, int b)
{
   if (b==0)
      return a;
   return gcd(b, a%b);
}

// Returns LCM of array elements
ll findlcm(int arr[], int n)
{
   // Initialize result
   ll ans = arr[0];

   // ans contains LCM of arr[0],..arr[j]
   // after j'th iteration,
   for (int j=1; i<n; i++)
      ans = ( ((arr[j]*ans)) /
            (gcd(arr[j], ans)) );

   return ans;
}

// Driver Code
int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{

 
    // Check the number of parameters
    if (argc < 2) {
        // Tell the user how to run the program
        std::cerr << "Usage: " << argv[0] << " NAME" << std::endl;

        return 1;
    }
  //int arr[] = {2, 7, 3, 9, 4};
  int arr[argc-1];

  for (int j = 0; i < argc-1; i++)
    {
      arr[j] = atoi(argv[i+1]);
    }
   
   int n = sizeof(arr)/sizeof(arr[0]);
   printf("%lld\n", findlcm(arr, n));
   return 0;
}
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The Python definitions are kind of cryptic, whereas the above C++ code is more explicit.

def gcdm(a, *r):
    for b in r:
        while b:
            a, b = b, (a % b)
    return abs(a)


def lcmm(a, *r):
    for b in r:
        a *= b // gcdm(a,b)
    return abs(a)


________________________________________________________________________

Alas, as you know, I most prefer computing with paper and pencil, so I like to factor each number into primes (with appropriate exponentiation).  Then I see which are common.  As you may have noticed, similar procedures apply for both LCM and GCD (HCF), but the criteria for what to do with the common factors is different in each case.

I found the following that you might find applicable:  Using Prime Factorization to Find GCF & LCM which utilizes a Venn Diagram for keeping things organized.  Please do not be insulted if you think this looks "childish".  I am not kidding around.  I really find the method shown in the link to be great using the factor tree as well as the Venn diagram.

Yes, you are absolutely right.  I would much rather lose myself in such computations than be flirted with by an attractive woman promoting credit cards.  This may sound morbid, and there are those who would accuse me of being a bitter, rotten toothed needle-diick, but at least I am quite cognizant of the power certain women's charms have over me.  Evidently, the company which hires her out is equally cognizant of this phenomenon.



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Re: Murderous Resentment
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VELLORE: The Vellore police on Wednesday arrested a 45-year old woman for biting off a part of her husband’s **** during a scuffle with him after he caught her with her lover in Thuraimoolai village near Gudiyatham in Vellore district.
The woman, Jayanthi, has been charged with attempted murder, a police officer said.
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The incident happened in the early hours of Monday after which villagers took a bleeding Senthamarai and the severed part of his **** to Vellore Government Hospital and later to Rajiv Gandhi Government Medical College and Hospital in Chennai for advanced care.
Senthamarai, 55, a farmer, and Jayanthi had taken part in a village temple festival on Sunday as part of the auspicious Aadi month festivities.

‘Enraged, he threatened to make their illicit relationship public’
After the temple event, they went for a street play, the officer said. Around 1.30am Jayanthi slipped out of the crowd on the pretext of needing to relieve herself.
When Jayanthi failed to return more than an hour later, a worried Senthamarai went in search of her. He later found her in a compromising position with another villager, Dhatchanamoorthi.
“Enraged, Senthamarai grabbed his wife and her lover and threatened to make their relationship public,” the officer said. “ Noise from the festivities outside drowned out Dhatchanamoorthi’s cries for help.”

“In the scuffle that ensued, Senthamarai’s dhoti fell off. Jayanthi, fearing she and her lover would be thrashed, wanted to escape before villagers reached the spot,” he said. “She bit his ****, severing part of it, and fled with her lover.”
Doctors at Vellore Medical College and Hospital provided Senthamarai with first aid before he was moved to Rajiv Gandhi Government Medical College and Hospital in Chennai. Senthamarai’s condition is said to be stable.
Police tracked down Jayanthi by monitoring Dhatchanamoorthi’s cellphone. They registered a case under sections IPC Sections 294(b) (obscenity in public), 324 (causing hurt with dangerous weapons or means) and 307 (attempt to murder).
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2018, 05:52:35 pm »
I had a vision of the future.  All my notebooks were found after my death, and rather than bothering to study the contents, the only thing the people who found the notes could conclude was, "This guy had too much time on his hands."

 :P

I must reflect upon the wisdom of this vision while still living and stubbornly refuse to give a damn about being understood by anyone.   In this light, even one of the prayers of Francis of Assisi makes more sense, "May I seek to understand rather than to be understood."

And I say this not in some "holy" or "righteous" tone, but in a truly belligerent tone.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2020, 10:52:05 am »
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What about this Artificial Intelligence that will replace the next generation of human beings? What will happen to these institutions of high learning? Will these teachers, professors, etc, become obsolete? I suppose the elite will still have some use for some humans to adjust the screws of these machines.

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I remember during a drunk way back in the 1990's, when I was mowing acre upon acre of grass (on the Toro machines), I would babble about self-driving lawn mowers which would be programmed by an "Automated Maintenance Technician".  He would ride them over an area in "record" mode and "save" the pattern to a name designating the area.

Also, I imagine that among the first innovators of the automated workforce will be Fast Food King McDonald's who would replace most of its work force with "Automated Food Prep Technicians".  There will always be a need for the human animal to oversee and maintain, to program, and to go to jail if the store burns down or if a child gets chopped up by the robotic blades.

As someone who dabbles with computer programming on a regular basis, I imagine the potential for disasters and mishaps is endless.

To err is human, but in order to really fuuck shiit up, you need a human programming a machine.

One day they will program machines to program machines.  Machines don't type a comma when they mean a semicolon; but I see no way to secure against errors of different kinds.

No labor saving device has ever really saved any labor.   Think of nails and hammers.

They need factories to produce the nails, right?

Robots are building cars, but we like to think that humans engineer them.

It is more likely that these automobiles are designed by "corporate software."

But, I digress.  I like to talk negatively with you before I muster up enthusiasm for spending as much time as possible cultivating a deeper understanding of a few topics which cultivate absolutely zero economic return.   

Thankfully, for the time being, I am able to get some groceries and help the mother pay the bills required for us to live indoors, entirely by the grace of the federal government's social security funds.

You know, one always hears about the need for the work force to be replenished, which is why governments secretly encourage immigration when their "native" population is not breeding fast enough to fill all the redundant positions in the service and sector.

And yet, what shall the future management do with the restless human animals on their plantation when they have less need for them?   Will they invent busy work?   Will everyone become a police officer?

In one of HG Well's science fiction stories about the future, there were only two options:  unemployed or police officer.

I guess the Criminal Underworld and Shadow governments shall inherit the earth, huh.

Tough break for the meek, not to mention the kahKah-RRoaches.

As for teachers and professors being replaced by Artificial Intelligence, I don't see that happening, although there may be repeated failed attempts to do so.  Maybe there will be a movement toward home-schooling and self-learning; but, remember, most "schooling" is focused less on education and more on obedience training, the instillation of consumerist values, and other "socialization".

Tough break for the meek, indeed.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2020, 02:32:18 pm »
I would like to be the Underground man,with a mathematical bent of mind,when I grow up :)
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2020, 04:52:40 am »
I would like to say goodbye to everyone.
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2020, 06:07:47 am »
Please take some time to thing about it all.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2020, 06:13:23 am »
What is to become of the garden?  Where am I to go? 
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2020, 06:53:49 am »
Herr Hauser,

You can look for a small room in that town itself.It might take you a couple of weeks.So, for about 2 weeks you could stay in a cheap lodge(the cheapest you could find), and then move your belongings to that room.You have lived alone before so it's  not something completely new.Only, you should try and stay away from the neighbours.Dont talk to them.You could spend most of your time with maths and books and when you feel lonely you could talk to us here and watch a something on the internet.


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