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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2020, 12:33:45 pm »
I am not sure if even the bubble wrap folks, at least most of them, would be able to get as deep as Schopenhauer and Cioran managed to venture.It gives me relief that I have not been so gortish as to dismiss them.
In my honest opinion, I think we will always have bubble-wrap folks with us, always.Just like we would always have the suicides and the depressives.

I see the uni students demanding "freedom" and yet I am quite certain most of them have no idea what they want freedom from.
The other day a taxi driver tells me that one of the famous politicians sons, who got married a couple of years back, should have had a baby by now, or else what is the point of having any wealth /property.

I think that our brains might, physiologically be wired differently than that of the gorts.I am trying to test this proposition.I was just watching a documentary on Cioran, in Romanian,with English subtitle,and I think he enrolled himself as a uni student in order to get easy access to cheap uni cafetria food.

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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2020, 12:38:12 pm »
Silenus,

Days ago you quit your job. As you say in American English that is and was a very bad move. Now you have lost the respect and esteem of your fellow slaves and sufferers. You need a regimented life. How dare you leave your prison! No, no, Silenus, go back to your job and respectfully say to your boss/little god: “I am sorry, boss, forgive me and please let me come back”.

P.S. Hahaha. I am just joking. I read your post before and I failed to write some words. I can only wish you, from this devil-forsaken land, tranquility wherever you go or whatever you do. Best wishes.

Stay safe and sound.

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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2020, 04:35:30 pm »
Thanks, Raul. I will certainly not take your advice there. ;)

Hey Holden, do they have public cafeterias in India, where one could get a very cheap meal? I find it hard to comprehend how a country with a population as large as yours can even have enough food to provide for all, even if socially-imposed poverty were not a thing.

Such places, if they even ever existed here in the Corporate States of Amerika, would never last. We are not that kind. I'm surprised that bread lines were even allowed in the 1920's Depression. Then again, the slaves must be kept and fed.

A cruel world where even basic animal necessities are warded off by our Overlords.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2020, 12:00:07 pm »
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Hey Holden, do they have public cafeterias in India, where one could get a very cheap meal?
-Mr.Silenus

Street food is very popular here. It consists primarily of flat bread or white rice,some salt and chillis.A large section of the population is malnourished.

I see a lot of beggars in the street.Skeletons really.And the babies and kids are the worst off. They sell balloons and other nick-nacks in the streets. Its hellish really,no exaggeration.
They literally live on the streets through the summer and the winter. Many die due to frost-bite and sun stroke.No one is bothered.It makes my headache to think of all this.I don't like to think about it too much.And yet despite it all, they wish to live. Many years back ,when I was working in a hotel as waiter, and was coming back to my house late in the night ,around 2 am, some of the other waiters saw and pointed to me a couple of beggars who were copulating right there in the street.
It really is one of the worst places in the world to be alive in.
In the fancy restaurants,I have see a lot of food is just thrown away. I guess the street dwellers get habituated to all the a harshness at least to some extent.

The dogs here are healthier than human beings. Its just the worst place one could possibly imagine.Its the ninth circle of hell, the place where I live.
Unlike you,my courageous friend, I am still a wage slave and die a little everyday when I need to face my demon-colleagues in the office.If you wish to know what my office is like add up the court house in Kafka's Trial, the office in the Metamorphosis, the Castle in the novel Castle( by Kafka) and then multiply the sum by a thousand and you might just get some idea.

No there is not enough food for everyone here. Involuntary starvation is quite commonplace.Too many mouths to feed,you see,way too many.I am about to go to bed now and as I put my head on the pillow, a prayer leaves my lips on its own, a prayer to never open my eyes again.
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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2020, 12:59:49 pm »
Holden,
  Here in this relatively small city it is easy to recognize the same homeless people after just a short period of time.  I am still able to go to my parents' home at night to sleep, but like the destitute ones I have taken to wandering the streets, or to sitting in the library like I am now.  I am simply making up for lost time, as this is what I prefer to do.  Why should I have to participate in a sick civilization hell bent on destroying itself?
  These homeless, they are the same ones year after year.  Do they receive help, or do they not?  Do they fear the help?  If I were to become entirely without a place to rest my head, would I too fear it, because of the potential indoctrinating programs one could be placed into?  Why is it that a man or woman cannot simply REFUSE and opt out of the game, while still having basic animal needs provided?  Is that really any harm?  According to the Industrial Machine, it is a great harm.  So, for now, I will be a gash in the throat of the system.
  A couple of weeks ago I watched a film called Permanent Vacation, directed by Jim Jarmusch.  It's about a loner, a wanderer, who drifts about New York City encountering other various "lost souls."  The narration makes it a perfect case study of one with Schizoid Personality Disorder, which Kafka was somewhat believed to be.  In fact, many of our literary companions, Beckett, Cioran, Artaud, Celine, could be said to have possessed Schizoid traits.  I resonate with them for a reason.
  Here is the intro scene to Permanent Vacation, the narration beginning at 4:40.


  And I don't know if you've seen Orson Welles' take on The Trial, but here is the prologue to his film, the short story "Before the Law":


P.S. I am not surprised about the couple ffucking on the street.  Nothing surprises me about the nature of our animality.

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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2020, 07:30:34 am »
Mr.Silenus,

Artaud had a really tough time,what with being in an insane asylum for long periods of time.Artists are always considered as outsiders.I read a few a books about him while I was hiding in a hotel from my office back in '16.Sometimes I feel so down that I think I'd end up in an insane asylum too. I see a lot of schizophrenics here in the streets,they just keep muttering something to themselves and are dressed in a toga.

If a woman happens to be in the streets and schizophrenic then she often ends with a baby due to being raped by the street goons. It's that really lovely?

The truth is, sometimes, it maybe better to go out of one's mind,there might be some peace there.Most of my aunts,uncles and cousins,they keep fighting among themselves and quite viciously.

I often think of Artaud. He was not materially well-off either. How is one supposed to fend for oneself in this bizarre and merciless world,one wonders.He wrote about how Van Gogh was compelled by the society to kill himself.Van Gogh must have spent thousands of hours working on his art,drawings and yet in the end all,the society decided,he was really worth was a lead bullet.His brother who supported him financially for long periods of time died after six months.

Thanks for the videos. Much appreciated.I have come to realise that reading Kafka and living in the world as described by him are two different things and well, I happen to live in such a world.

Again, I greatly admire your decision to quit your job.I could not bring myself to do it.

Take care.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2020, 04:34:19 am »
Holden,
  Have you heard of this work by Artaud? It seems practically impossible to find, or find anything about it.

https://www.infinitylandpress.com/heliogabalus-by-antonin-artaud

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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2020, 12:00:35 pm »
Mr.Silenus,

I do not think I was aware of this particular work by Artaud. Some paperback copies might be available here:

https://www.amazon.com/Heliogabalus-Crowned-Anarchist-Antonin-Artaud/dp/0971457808/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Heliogabalus%3B+or%2C+the+Crowned+Anarchist&qid=1579192628&sr=8-1

A little expensive but might be worth checking out.Thanks for idea.
There are a couple of reviews there as well.

You speak of Cioran always keeping his suitcase ready. I remember always keeping my bike close by when I went to the office earlier so that if any tiff got really intense I'd just run away.In fact, once such an incidence did happen and I took up my bike and rode about 90 kilometers (in the winter of 2010) and hid in a hotel room. Plan was to hang myself by the bed sheet. I turned on the telly and they were playing this movie called Match Point by Woody Allen.
My parents persuaded me to come back and rejoin the job and I could not bring myself  to hang from the ceiling fan.

You used the word Schizoid a few days back and I guess I'd take it-schizoid,aspergers' syndrome,they might describe me rather well though I have never been formally,officially diagnosed.In India, only the man who fails to earn any money is defined as mentally troubled.

But how is one to make a scientist understand that there is something unalterably deranged about differential calculus, quantum theory, or the obscene and so inanely liturgical ordeals of the procession of the equinoxes.
-Artaud
I have written about my parents in some of the other messages here and suffice it to say that they do not consider me as "normal",they'd rather I get married and have a kid or two.

The problem is,I have more in common with Artaud than them and its not something I can change. Its just there.Thanks to you, I revisited Artaud and it was just the kind of medicine my wounded soul was yearning for, his words are like manna from heaven for me.

Thanks again for the information about the Crowned Anarchist.
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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2020, 01:59:43 pm »
Sprechen Sie Deutsch?    ???

(22  + 14 shipping = ) 36 US dolares in German/Alaman : abe books.

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There is an English translation:  $60 (includes shipping) :

Heliogabalus

Back before the Information/Space-Age-Alien Mall-Rat invasion, when the closest Barnes and Noble was a trip into the city, in 1991, I was forced by some Supernatural Agency to pay $160 to have Books on Demand print me my own personal two-volumed set of  "The Pessimist's Handbook," which is basically Parerga and Paralipomena in an organized form.  It also has a great introduction by the translator.  That's where I learned that Schopenhauer kept notebooks throught his life, and that it was from those hand scribbled notebooks that he EXTRACTED his published writings.

That purchase was well worth the investment since it exposed a side of the aged man succumbing to trying to give tips on how to be the least miserable, coming to the conclusion that there is no true escape from our condition but for small blips of reprieve.

I suspect that it is then we merge with the whatever it is that is not.

? I fear driving the tiny car in the great winds with all the Loonies-on-Wheels speeding around like demons in Hell.  Dante's imagination could not have invented the hellish torture-chamber ride this Global Civilization is in, even and especially when it's all just Business as per usual, another day in Bizarroland where we're all supposed to go running to the Professionals for Salvation.

Cioran was a clinician, as we each know, since we have been healed by his insights, in a way.  He has given us permission not to exist.  Those few who aim to cut to the bone as Cioran did would have to accept that one is enduring existence up to a limit, but that one was drawing the line as far as being allowed to starve to death by the Zoo Keepers.

Holden says that death by involuntary starvation is rampant in parts of India, and that the First and Third Worlds walk side by side in the streets.

Here in the Slave States (what Schopenhauer called Nordamerika), the police forces mainly protect capital and property, thereby are committed to enforce the POLICies of the LOCAL GOVERNMENT municipalites and banking systems.   It is a crime to be hungry and homeless, you see, in the midst of such corruption - the lifestyles sold as desireable end up being "mirror mirror on the wall" gort delusions.

It's every brain for itself.  Read on Silenus.   Now that is something worth skipping some meals for ... a good "fasting experiment" --- Peanut butter, Steel Cut Oats, Black Eye Peas, Yellow Peas, Lentils --- a steady supply of the Holy Trintity : onions, carrots, celery chopped.

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The Real Situation: POSSESSED
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2020, 12:43:20 am »
new to me:

From Possessed c. 2018

Possessed (intro)



It's In My Blood




Amnesia   




Ghost in the Machine




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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2020, 11:00:17 pm »
Quote from: Holden
A few years back I worked under a man who was obsessed with productivity and in a fit of dark humour I told my colleagues, that if it were unto him, he would chop off the horns of the cows which lazily munch on grass and turn them into phony ponies and organise polo matches using them in order to generate some revenue out of them.

Like Charles Dexter Ward, Brodsky had his own personal agenda which went beyond the confines of narrow academic setting. The reason Schopenhauer failed to become an academician was that he wanted to teach what can never be taught within the confines of gort infested universities.

I have a great deal of sympathy for you, because, despite of possessing far more intelligence than the typical corporate executive,you are in dire financial straits because of your unwillingness to be subservient.  There ought be some kind of scholarship allowance for you and yet things are not exactly how one would like them to be.

You should not take up a job,if you can manage without one and have patience,maybe after some time things might change for the better.

I'm not sure if you remember me mentioning that the story of Charles Dexter Ward was the first story by Lovecraft which really genuinely appealed to me.  The way Mr. Ward goes about studying what interests him without restraint.   Careerism seems to trump such interests, relegating them to the realm a hobby for an ameteur.   

The humility of living from hand to mouth is not so bad for me.  For whatever reasons, subservience has become ever more unbearable for me.  I feel I do not have to explain this to any critics from any nation, and if pressed, I might choose death over indentured slavery.  I know this would sound immature coming from a man my age, something one might expect out of the mouth of a rebellious teenager; but - well, there it is, I unashamedly admit.   This is the aspect which outrages our more arrogant fellow-sufferers on the plantation.   They see a lack of resources as the desrved fate of a "lazy" person considered USELESS to gort society.   It is amazing that you actually are able to genuinely sympathize with me.   You have not been so brainwashed as those who tell you that "math books are for children," and not for adults who should have their nose to the grindstone, prostituting their days to the highest bidder.

Maybe one day I will be placed in a position to talk people out of suicide who are contemplating this as an option to "business as usual."   I don't know, Holden, why it is I have had such a difficult time finding a place in this world.  Maybe I have found a place, and that place is outside the workforce, outside the university (unless as a janitor).   Again, I don't understand the discrepancy between my so-called intelligence and my position in society any more than you do.   Maybe it is as Schopenhauer says, that society reverses the natural order of the universe with its own artificially enforced order, keeping what Nature has made strong LOW, while raising degenerates to positions of economic and militaristic authority.

I will transcribe the excerpts jotted down on page 76 in H-158 (2012) : The Faustus Phenomenon, Book One , a "diary" written during 2012 ... when I purchased a huge collection of Lovecraft tales.    Yes, out of all the stories by Lovecraft I have read, this character, Charles Dexter Ward, inspires me to just take it in stride.    There are many different kinds of strange characters in this world, and not all of us are going to find "economic prosperity" in such a world as ours, the worst of all possible worlds.   
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"He had, he said, important special investigations to make, which would provide him with more avenues toward knowledge and the humanities than any university which the world could boast."
 
"Naturally, only one who had always been more or less studious, eccentric, and solitary could have pursued this course for many days without attracting notice.    Ward, however, was constitutionally a scholar and a hermit; hence his parents were less surprised than regretful at the close confinement and secrecy he adopted."

"During October Ward began visiting the libraries again, but no longer for the antiquarian matter of his former days. Witchcraft and magic, occultism and daemonology, were what he sought now."
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While I was interested in occult topics during my late teens and early twenties, my current "witchcraft" is "mathcraft" ... the mathcraft is in the code.

I like to think of different ages past when scholarly pursuits were reserved for priestly classes.   I also have met individuals on the edge of society who struggle with addictions, constant suicidal ideations when seeking a way out of the maze ... many suffer indescribable agonies for which there seems to be no relief for them.   I have been in much worse shape, mentally and emotionally.   I have witnessed just how utterly miserable this Hell can be, and so, it really is a Razor's Edge.   Remember Schopenhauer's words, Holden, about how a prisoner in a dungeon, with a certain temperament, might experience moments of tranquility and even mirth, whereas there is no guarantee that a prince's wealth will grant him any simple joy or delight or wonder or fascination or enchantment.

I know it may sound corny and cliche, and I understand the view of the gort masses that some of us diagnosed with "mood disorders" or a "chemical imbalance" are a drain on the War Machine economy, that we ought to be contributing --- the way soldiers do ... they always rub one's face in shiit by pointing out the sacrifices soldiers make.   In fact, the silent majority would like to turn all the soldier-slaves against the man who speaks his mind freely and is not in the least bit ashamed of not wanting to get his balls shot off, and is not particularly enthusiastic about shooting any other man's balls off for no other reason than, "It's an order!"

If I were employed, I imagine I would be as helpful and subservient as possible, for as long as possible, but I have come to know myself, to know the potential for dark moods that overtake me - as well as how I behave around others when agitated or "trapped" ... talking outloud, saying crazy things.

Kurt Vonnegut has warned (in Twelfth Night) to be careful about what you pretend to be, since that is what you often become.   You become what you do (or don't do).   

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The reason Schopenhauer failed to become an academician was that he wanted to teach what can never be taught within the confines of gort infested universities.

In a perfect world, I would, like Thoreau, prefer to start my own school which would be "between high school and university," and thereby "beyond" universities coopted by Industry, that is, the school would focus on developing understanding for understanding's sake and might not turn out too many ambitious go-getters.   That's a whole different can of worms, a pipe dream that isn't even that satisfying.    I never thought I would be "on the disability dole" for this long.   It just kind of becomes your life, as Springsteen sings in "Straight Time".

Maybe I have dived deeper, and hence, have come up muddier.  Too muddy for polite gort society.



I am failry certain that, even were I to have been blessed with financial security, there would still be, on some nights and mornings, a desire to die in my sleep.   It is not getting any easier, and - for the moment, I am one of the lucky ones!  That is, I am living indoors with access to books and Internet.  This kind of security is temporary; and yet, in reality, not even a wealthy famliy is immune to what we go on and on about here - the predicament of being born, having to eat to live ... It can't be very easy for anyone.

Control and security may be, after all, just illusions.  The animal body decays, and the human heart experiences hate, fear, anxiety, and trauma regardless of the contents in a bank account.   Still, the price of rent for even run down, cockroach infested slumboxes, may lead many into the streets, and thereby, subjected to psychiatric labels and diagnoses.   Mental Illness, per se, may be more of an economic and political phenomenon than a medical reality.
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2020, 10:22:00 pm »


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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2020, 12:56:41 pm »

"Rowing"

Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row
Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row

Moving is breathing and breathing is life
Stopping is dying, you'll be alright
Life is a hammer waiting to drop
Adrift in the shallows and the rowing won't stop

Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row
Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row

Can't see the sky, nothing on the horizon
Can't feel my hands and the water keeps rising
Can't fall asleep cause I'll wake up dead
I just keep pulling, I just keep rolling

Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row
Don't know where I'm going (I don't know where I'm going)
I just keep on rowing, I just keep on pulling, gotta row

Rowing is living and living is hard
But living beats losing all that we are
And all that we know of and all that we feel
And all we remember imagined or real
All we remember imagined or real

I heard an echo but the answer had changed
From the word I remember that I started out saying
Living is cheating if you're not pulling oars
But the current is leaving, I'll get mine, you'll get yours

Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row
Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row

Rowing is bleeding and bleeding is breathing
Breathing is feeling burning and freezing
Keep getting dirty but I started out clean
I keep on rowing, I keep on rowing
I keep on pulling, I keep on pulling
I keep on rowing, I keep on rowing
I keep on rowing, I keep on rowing
I keep on rolling
Keep on rolling

Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row
Don't know where I'm going, I just keep on rowing
I just keep on pulling, gotta row
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2020, 06:48:00 am »


[Verse 1: David Gilmour & Choir]
Fuck all that, we've got to get on with these
(Fuck all that, Fuck all that)
Got to compete with the wily Japanese
There’s too many home fires burning and not enough trees
(Fuck all that)
So Fuck all that, we've gotta get on with these
(Gotta get on with these)

[Verse 2: Roger Waters & Choir]
Can’t stop, lose job
Mind gone, silicon
Tsar bomb, what bomb?
Get away, pay day
Make hay, break down
Need fix, big six
Click, click
Hold on, oh no
Bingo! (Bingo!)

[Bridge: Roger Waters]
Make them laugh, make them cry
Make them dance in the aisles
Make them pay, make them stay
Make them feel okay

[Verse 3: David Gilmour & Choir]
Not now John, we've got to get on with the film show
(Gotta get on, gotta get on)
Hollywood waits at the end of the rainbow
(End of the rainbow)
Who cares what it’s about as long as the kids go
(As long as the kids go)
So, not now John, we've gotta get on with the show
(Gotta get on with the show, gotta get on, gotta get on)

[Guitar Solo]

[Verse 4: David Gilmour & Choir]
(Gotta get on, gotta get on, gotta get on)
Hang on John I've got to get on with this
(Gotta get on, gotta get on)
I don’t know what it is, but it fits on here like- tsss
Come at the end of the shift, we’ll go and get pissed
But not now now John, I've gotta get on with this
(Gotta get on with this, gotta get on)

[Bridge: Roger Waters]
Hold on John, I think there’s something good on
I used to read books but...
It could be the news, or some other amusement
Could be reusable shows

[Verse 5: Roger Waters & Choir]
Fuck all that, we've gotta get on with these
(Doo, doo, wah)
Got to compete with the wily Japanese
(Gotta get on, gotta get on)
No need to worry about the Vietnapeace
(Doo, doo, wah)
Got to bring the Russian Bear to his knees
(Gotta get on)
Well, maybe not the Russian Bear, maybe the Swedes
(Doo, doo, wah)
We showed Argentina, now let’s go and show these
(Gotta get on, gotta get on)
Make us feel tough and wouldn't Maggie be pleased?
(Doo, doo, wah)
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na
One, two, Free Four!
(One, two, Free Four!)

[Outro]
S'cusi, dov'è il bar? (What?)
Se parakalo, pou einai to bar?
S’il vous plaît, où est le bar? (Say it in English!)
Oi, where’s the fucking bar John? (Oh, now you’re talking!)
(Oh! Rule Britannia! Britannia rules the day)
Down! Go, Maggie!
Hammer, Hammer, Hammer, Hammer, now!

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Things They Will Never Tell YouArthur Schopenhauer has been the most radical and defiant of all troublemakers.

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