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The Real Situation
« on: November 24, 2019, 07:47:25 am »
On a more serious note:  TENT CITY, USA: The Growth of America’s Homeless Encampments and How Communities are Responding

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I just have to work up the courage Cioran showed when he said he would live how he did as long as he could, and when his luck ran out, he would "end it." 

My problem is that I am a terrified animal who would be horrified at the thought of my own brain carrying such a thought through.   There are greater forces involved than my mere "psychological wishes" for security, safety, and shelter.

More [actual observations] News from Just Another Land of Confusion:
The Criminalization of Homelessness in U.S. Cities

Has Husserl's phenomenological method ever been able to "bracket off" hunger or terror?   No?  I thought not.   This anxiety I feel has roots in the brute facts of existence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKiATSv6jY0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8sUP0ODIVI

... and I feel I am content working on some code, hiding in a room ... Part of me is able to observe objectively and embrace the void, although I too long for some kind of ancestral connection, but I am afraid something has gone haywire; that is, my "weakness"-in-the-Flesh might be the outcome of forces far beyond my control.

I would prefer to go out with some grace, dignity, and even as much strength as I can muster, but that would require some People adopt me or recognize me as a human brother.   I would try to behave and not lash out in fear or terror, but to keep my head together and just let the spirit that flows through all things guide me.

Strength, Mercy, or Death -

No matter what, it's all so very HEAVY.
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Silenus

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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 06:58:15 am »
Is there a philosophy for the "broken" and "downtrodden?" Surely there would not be time for system-development as one is trying to sleep with their possessions stuck down their pants, hungry and rain-soaked.

Anything I have confirmed in my observations of the living-condition would be solidified living without a "home-base." But what of the thoughts of myself? I'd LIKE to think I'm a nonviolent person, but placed on the street, how long would it take to show the "feral" side masked within all of us? 9 meals from anarchy, no?  Here comes the contradictions you mention in recent threads.

I don't think I would have time or sensibility for objective thought. The books and letters turn to ashes when a man is made desperate, wanting and DRIVEN against the wall.

"And the strict master Death bids them dance."

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 01:10:57 pm »
Very well expressed, Silenus.   In our natural state, there is certainly no time for system-development.

I spend a great deal of time studying, currently focused on the C++ STL, but also having to deal with the annoyances of keeping "operating systems" functioning.    To sleep with possessions stuck down one's pants, hungry and rain-soaked --- there would be no opportunity for any of this.     Also, it is very easy to get into some kind of altercation and be thrown in a cage, unable to help mother ... Many mothers do die when a son they depend upon gets ripped from her life and placed in a cage.

This is why I always daydream about forming some kind of Apocolyptic Monastaries for Surviving Armegedeon.  I use these mythological terms for comic effect.   

We see the reality.   Even with a roof over one's head, behold the world we are in, how utterly dependent we are on gargantuan artifice beyond our comprehension; and where we are always 9 meals from anarchy.

The books and letters turn to ashes when a man is made desperate.   These words are quite HAUNTING.
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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2019, 10:19:10 pm »
This may be something that will resonate with the readers of this board. 

Another tricky link:

http:

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ultra-com.

org/project/f

uck-work/
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« Last Edit: January 04, 2020, 10:18:40 pm by { .?. } »
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2020, 09:42:30 am »
That is an excellent first-hand account of "work," from ultra.com. Everyone is pushed and pullex in various directions, living on borrowed time, at the mercy of the compassion and patience of others, often not realizing that "the grind" is not a compassionate or patient way to treat ONESELF.

I just quit my job two days ago. Before I walked out, I super-glued some posters I made onto walls by the timeclocks listing the ways in which the actual workers were being screwed over by the overlords. I made sure to call out the Owner class and their managerial peons as one last "fuckk you" to the prison.

Now I'm taking my time wandering around this city, sitting in a coffeshop or the library, TAKING CARE of myself in this hellworld of a planet. Watching my fellow slaves shuffle off to work, sitting glued to their office chairs; seeing the poor children being sent off to their re-education camps. And I walk, being perfectly useless to this civilization and it's economy.

I don't know what is next up for me. But aimlessness has always been my natural propensity, so I am rolling with it for now.

Edit: And yes, observing the news about the collapse of Australia, megadrought in Africa, new records of CO2 emissions being set, the warming Artic, and on and on, was part of the reason why I said "ffuck it." Really, what is the point?

I sit here in this self-branded "liberal" coffeeshop, listening to the droning noise of trivial conversation, the "politically correct" terminology thrown around for moral-hero points ( ::)),, as we prisoners of Industrial Civilization (energy-hungry apes) rush headlong into food and water shortages, new wars, and ecological extinction. Where's Celine when you need him? :)
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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2020, 08:35:42 pm »
I am glad you were able to find it.

http://www.ultra-com.org/project/

f*ck-work

I wish I had the courage or disdain that Celine had.  We have been trained to be far too polite.   Thinking from the vantage point of those who have gone off the grid, or simply those who live between realms, on the fringes of the human artifice of Industrial Civilization, can be more than a little creepy. 

When I did a lot of walking, I would always notice when drivers and their children were not dressed for the elements.  They seemed to have a kind of "space age" [false] confidence.   This is simple complacency.

You will learn a great deal more philosophy in the streets than in the universities, Silenus. 

One may wish to be careful not to probe too deeply into the contents of one's own mind, lest one discover the true nature of the Creature.   I wish the world to know once and for all that I am not in the least bit ashamed of having no desire whatsoever to be their "foot soldier."  That is, I am a scoundrel, yes!    I am a creature who wishes to hide in a warm shelter stocked with some groceries.

One moment I am pathetic, the next moment I am interested in "red-black" trees ... and std::map ...

bread and butter for a smile ... and electric heat?
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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2020, 01:05:59 pm »
"I made a decision: Not to work. To live as a parasite. I never worked in my life. I never had a job, except for a year, in Brasov, as a high school teacher. And it was a complete failure. I realized I could not practice a profession. I have to wander around in life. To avoid any responsibility. I have to do everything in order to save my freedom. Freedom to not work in the proper sense of the word. All my life, I calculated how I can be free in a complete sense. Life is only worth living if you are free. I don’t want to be a slave in any way. This is the only absolute certainty that I’ve had in life. I don’t want to be subordinate. I can succumb to any humiliation. On the condition that I am free." - Cioran
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2020, 04:54:54 pm »
Amen on that, Cioran!   The Subject has its own agenda, and it respects the Subjectivity of Nature-in-Itself, in all Her manifestations.  We're a bunch of angry and frightened tubes on a  mass of water hurling around a great big ball of fire for no purpose whatsoever, and we have to keep urinating, not to mention hydrating, the warming of the bones, the consuming of mass quantities of plant and animal life, dare I say, et cetera?

My own aging mother has expressed a strong propensity for selling me into slavery, in whatever capacity ... Reading that by Cioran is a real [good kind of] bucket of water in my tired sleepy face. 

I have caught myself joking about filling out applications at certain stores while in the stores just to test the waters, to see just how easily my Presence might upset the Apple Cart no matter what capacity I served the Company/Employer. 

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I never had a job, except for a year, in Brasov, as a high school teacher. And it was a complete failure. I realized I could not practice a profession.

I have already peeked into the last Part of a certain C++ text, and right after most of the fundamentals of the STL are covered, there is a section on "professionalism."   I understand the need for this when lives depend on software created; but this professionalism is what I can't seem to muster, which is why I prefer to delight in my own algebraic programming experiments in basic analysis.  No boss, no professor to impress and obey, no family to shame (extended family thinks I am nuts or full-of-s-hit) ... I will work through the chapter, but it requires much patience to take heed of political codes of conduct aimed at promulgating a culture of "learn, learn, adapt, or get left on the curb" mentality.  Programming and Mathematics are for Creative bums as well, and just because many of us do not fit into any molds that have deemed useful to society, does not imply that we have lost our initial passion for these subjects and disciplines.

Industry and Social Politics seem to propagate the lie that years and decades when one is detached from any kind of employment, formal student status, etc, that those are wasted.

Thank you, Silenus, for posting this: I don’t want to be a slave in any way. This is the only absolute certainty that I’ve had in life. I don’t want to be subordinate.

It is like challenging Fate.   Only this much, then it's off the cliff for us ... I hear the term Original Thinker, and I suppose that this is what it means to be one ---> Free to be wrong, free to be insane, free to have a head filled with nonsense ... to make mistakes and learn, even if this is not efficient to the species or Society/God as a whole.   The kind of Professionalism demanded of certain modern endeavors demands efficiency, and the current politics leans towards using or building libraries, not building every little tool and utility from scratch, but building with the tools at hand, and the available libraries.

Cioran, were he to have dabbled in some programming might have delighted in applying it to building several custom-made Mathematical Assistance [on a disk].   It's a wonder and a delight in itself to do so, and the more elegant the code, the more radiantly the underlying mathematical idea might shine through to some future "code-monkey" [no offense meant; it must be thankless work if professional coders do not express their ideas in documentation right up in there with the code].

I may not have the kind of temperament required of the "professional elite" who hand pick from academia their Army of Corporate Intellectuals.   I am simply a humble philosopher (psychiatric anomaly)  who has put in the years studying mathematics  - and am currently breathing life into my interest in [modern C++ STL] programming THROUGH mathematics; that is, through algebra, analysis, and numerical computations.

If one is going to become a junkie, a math-and-code junkie, along with some soup-cooking and bread-baking crafts, could work to deter feelings of depression about not fitting into the current WORK FORCE.   There is too much I hate about intrusive advertz and call centers selling crap.  I want no part of the little fascists I would have to "report to" and "SUBMIT TO."

I can barely stay calm as I hang up my tracfone --- people want me to pay to listen to them interrupt my own train of thought.  They have no respect for what goes on between my ears!

We can be more honest and less polite, thanks to Cioran, Celine, and a few others.

There is no making sense of it, and each of us must have our own Inner Rage to repress, facing as we do similar worlds: brutal, violent, feeble-minded, dull-witted, shallow, small, petty, ...

Like Christopher Marlowe, one must muster the courage to be amazed with one's wonderous self.

The psychiatrists want one to play the role of patient/client working towards adapting to the Corporate Order, whereas my actual mental health requires my liberation from servitude --- for whatever it's worth.   

Armies and Mobs trample the human spirit, and the Silent Majority may wish to sit back in the shadows watching you starve, watching you go out of your mind with dejection and despair ... If at all possible, one has to humble oneself enough to seek Municipal government assistance in securing some kind of residence, even if it is just a room with access to shared kitchen/toilets.

Cioran lived around college campuses so as to feed at the cafeterias ?   what a scoundrel ...

Let he who is without any such quirks cast the first stone.
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mental note:  Vanagon with solar panel ceiling and on-board water-purifier ... (amphibious?) ... no rent, no utilities ... park in mountains and live in it while building yurt ... just an idea.   ???
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Re: The Real Situation
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2020, 12:54:31 pm »
Mr.Silenus,

I greatly admire your decision to quit your job.

La Tristesse Durera Toujours                                  (The Sadness Lasts Forever ...)
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2020, 04:49:57 pm »
The Russian poet Joseph Brodsky was charged with social parasitism by the Soviet authorities. A 1964 trial found that his series of odd jobs and role as a poet were not a sufficient contribution to society.

see also Russia: Is Coercive Psychology Staging A Comeback?

The totalitarian government in Soviet Russia invented a mental illness to lock up resisters
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2020, 01:48:13 pm »
I looked up Brodsky and found that he did managed to escape the erstwhile USSR and yet there were thousands of intellectuals who did perish. Many poets we don't even remember the names of, let alone their work.All gone.I can see how the gorts define work  very narrowly.

A few years back I worked under a man who was obsessed with productivity and in a fit of dark humour I told my colleagues, that if it were unto him, he would chop off the horns of the cows which lazily munch on grass and turn them into phony ponies and organise polo matches using them in order to generate some revenue out of them.

Like Charles Dexter Ward,Brodsky had his own personal agenda which went beyond the confines of narrow academic setting.The reason Schopenhauer failed to become an academician was that he wanted to teach what can never be taught within the confines of gort infested universities.

I have a great deal of sympathy for you, because, despite of possessing far more intelligence than the typical corporate executive,you are in dire financial straits because of your unwillingness to be subservient.  There ought be some kind of scholarship allowance for you and yet things are not exactly how one would like them to be.

You should not take up a job,if you can manage without one and have patience,maybe after some time things might change for the better.


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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2020, 01:52:20 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2020, 06:45:11 am »
That music calms the Steppenwolf … capturing the bitter sweet realization that what Schopenhauer and the ancients called genius is its own reward.  We do not delight in the consequences of our own genius, and yet it rewards us, even as there appears to be no material nor monetary [ commodifiable ] "take" or transaction for the application of genius.    It is Nature's Presence within us, or simply Nature-as-self using strengths it did not know it had, discovering only under the duress of finding itself alive, its own state most disturbing and distressing - the stomach, the anus, the eyes, ears - all sensitive instruments … the complicated and traumatic effects of social ostracization on the psyche of a human being ...

  That violin and piano music is something Bubble Wrap Folk might shed a tear to, or maybe even laugh with mystical delight upon witnessing the vanity and suffering of existence … skeletons (all of us, with incredible fleshly and mechanistico-organic wirings intertwined around the structures of the skeletal frames) thinking ourselves sexually attractive, and yet after many moon-passings-around the earth, graveyards as gardens, gardens as graveyards, orgasms and tombstones!! - one in the same.

Then there are the puppies and giant snakes … lions and tigers and bears … each with mites and viruses and antibodies ... kittens and flowers and chirping birds and the walking wounded living dead … some of those silly kittens becoming homeless cats in cities, maybe dying of frost and hypothermia or starvation, or getting run down by a motorist rushing to get to "a job" or "the holy temple" …
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