I've always been hesitant to become too familiar with MGTOW. At 53, this has been my Fate even without a movement.
With respect,I think you are using MGTOW and MRM(Men's Rights Movement) as synonyms,but they are quite distinct.
From MGTOW-
Unlike men's-rights activists (MRAs), MGTOWs do not seek to change society, but rather to distance themselves from society.
Why would you think that? I have never been involved nor interested in Men's Rights Movements, but most certainly have "gone my own way" - away from society (jobs, marriage, organized religion, group therapy). I used the word movement because, well, regardless of whether the abstract concept of "Men Going Their Own Way" is considered a movement or not, there are distinct personalities waving their flag, and I most certainly do not want to identify myself with some of the personalities who identify themselves as such. I simply do not participate in society so much, and while I see the upside down assault against men in general, and I fully sympathize with those who wish to scream from the rooftops how they see through the Big Lies in the Hen House, I am my own being, and I just don't require any role models but myself.
I've heard some of the more vocal "MGTOW" - and I personally found a few of them to be arrogant and vulgar scumbags. Do you find my use of the word "movement" to be problematic?
All I meant is that this has been my Fate: to be a man who goes his own way. I had gone my own way without any MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY "meme".
There is a great deal of ignorance which will always wish to parade itself around as authority. I wish to think for myself and speak as an individual man. I have been judged harshly by imbeciles, and the courts are filled with women in authority who would wrongly punish me over false accusations. And yet, I just can't claim any kinship with most men I encounter.
All men are not created equal. Some are more dog, while a few are wolves.
I always feel like a wolf among dogs when "grouped" with other men.
I get it that MGTOW is technically not a movement. I'm just clarifying that I have gone my own way on my own, through my own thinking and actions. I don't need other men dictating their little distinctions, and I reserve my autonomy. I think alone (mental independence from the "expectations" ).
As I have said, I don't feel obligated to become more familiar with personalities tossing around the MGTOW acronym, probably for similar reasons you do not wish to identify with the "New Atheists."
It's annoying to have one's own stance packaged into a box so one might be more easily pigeonholed. It is my prerogative not to be interested. I was just about to maybe become engrossed in some mathematics exercises as a kind of spiritual exercise, to see if my doing so might spread ...
I would not be burning any witches who happened to take to algebra ... Maybe I like witches. Maybe I am at a crucial moment this morning where I am trying to focus on my inner life. There are women who are antinatalist and misanthropic who also wish to go their own way ... There was that woman who started her own community of Franciscans, for example.
One must be careful not to burn such a bridge.
Nonetheless, I will heed your words and not refer to MGTOW as a "movement."
While I see myself as a lone wolf who does not wish to have his psyche devoured by the Will of a woman who would be all too quick to sell me into slavery (this includes my own biological mother, by the way), as for sexual relations, I have ceased desiring such a partner for my dread of the emotional entanglements involved.
Those who desire sexual relations with women but are unable to fulfill that desire have been identified, either by themselves or others, as "incels" ...
The MGTOW community has been called a misogynistic male supremacist group and identified as being "on the borders of the hateful incel community" by the Southern Poverty Law Center (*).Also,
few believe women can genuinely suffer involuntary celibacy. Some female incels believe they could have casual sex, but fear it would only be from men who would abuse or disrespect them.I suppose I am just a plain old-fashioned Onanist. If I feel in such a mood, I am skilled at relieving myself with a tenderness I have not found elsewhere. There are many traps men and women fall into due to the way populations are controlled through shaming conspiracies.
Maybe I could be labeled in any number of ways. These labels do not help me understand my predicament. Maybe I am just some kind of biological hoax, or I do not wish to have any pity sex with a woman just to reassure her of her sexuality.
What a sad world.
I do not want…
Women to bewitch you
With their arrogant breasts
And their protruding asses,
So many lures for one finality:
Giving birth.
Nor do I want…
Pretentious Casanovas
To pursue you with their sycophancy
And toy with your sensitivity.
I do not want you…
To waste your life
Earning your daily bread
By the sweat of your brow.
Or else by a thousand renunciations
By a thousand compromises.
I do not want you…
To fight for John Doe
Or for anyone else
Or for anything else.
There is a chance I have many deep-rooted resentments and hatred toward professional "white women" all too quick to play the role of the Little Fascist, the Leftist elite who think I might need "corrections," "treatment," a lesson in humility [="beat down by a pack of knuckle-dragging men]. I probably resent women of all ethnicities who would wish to see me abused, if only for my outspokenness.
I am a misanthrope. I am not fond of what I have seen in the species I have been born into, nor do I wish to perpetuate it. Does this make me a Species-Traitor?
Maybe I am not fond of organic life in general, that I have an intense desire to return to an inorganic state. The politics of sex bores me. Sex bores me. I am privately bitingly critical of married couples who encourage each other to prosper financially. Business agreements. I scorn the entire world, Holden. I am not obligated to choose any sides when it comes to the roles society or Nature would require its members to play.
I am perfectly content with the idea of resigning from the species.
Why bother studying mathematics? Well, actually, I have studied a great deal already. I want to leave some notes to show how I would approach certain exercises and concepts. I think someone might find it useful. I have very humble expectations of myself.
Maybe I just don't want to identify with ideas based on ugly twisted emotions.
My solitariness has been my passport into regions many dare not tread. This would apply to women as well as other men --- I mean, women also have access to this solitariness if they so choose. I do not want imaginary enemies haunting me.
In
the scarlet letter MP3 file, I explored the concept of the Devil being called "
The Black Man" in Hawthorne's
Scarlet Letter.
In an MP3 file closer to 40 minutes, called
Wuthering Heights, where I am happily buzzed on some spirits, I allow myself to explore how "masculine desire dominates speech and posits women as an idealized fantasy fulfillment for the incurable emotional lack caused by separation from 'the Mother' "
It is not too simple, for I resent being born from the womb of a woman. There is most likely great resentment just for having been brought into this world haphazardly, placed at the mercy of a woman, a space-age woman who knows not what she has done, and has never even thought to apologize, but still thinks she has given me a "precious gift" (life), not to mention her demand for emotional security which is not my responsibility to provide.
It's a goddamn comedy, an awful and cruel joke.
I would like to retain some grace and go out in style, not in a rage of twisted emotions.
These frustrating topics are very
deep,
many wish to "keep it simple," and they want to contaminate everyone they can with simplistic slogans which do nothing but silence the chaos beyond the boundaries of what they call Life or the world._____________________________________-
Now that English/Literature/Philosophy/Political-Science class is over, I am going to really try to resurrect an interest in mathematics this morning ... to protect my mind from the mass hysteria over same old malaria that has grown resistant to the antibiotics and what not.
Go your own way, Holden. You do not need validation for your resentments. This world and the human societies are very much full-of-shiit. Not all of us will be able to call squalor paradise. Not all of us will be compartmentalized.
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PS: If the dropbox location is inaccessible to you, I will work on placing the linked to files on The Wayback Machine, if you are curious as to what I am babbling on and on about. In fact, I think I will just upload a good amount of them as soon as possible.
As Henry Fool said, I do what I can. It's not much, but it is all I can do. I am stealing away the morning hours as it is. After all, I am caught in a trap, trying to be a good sport about it.
"another miserable marriage based on financial security" ! FTW
An alternate take: Consider
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, which presents Nurse Ratched as the robotic and desexualized authority figure (read: fascist) who is terrified of MacMurphy's masculine power. I think this is a great attack against the feminazi mentality. So, I cannot really be pinned down.
Take note of the thread,
Madness Theory, first page, first post:
I call it, besides
Science Fiction Bizarroland and
The Perfumed Corpse,
The Funny Farm Plantation.
J.D. Salinger's rebel-hero Holden Caulfield's quest in The Catcher in the Rye ended in an insane asylum and “signaled the end of American quests for the pure Utopia.”
She even mentions John Kennedy Toole's
A Confederacy of Dunces, offering insight into the absurdity of Ignatius Reilly's predicament:
And the journey – a retreat from his mother's lunacy – that Ignatius J. Reilly takes in A Confederacy of Dunces propels him into the arms of the equally loony girlfriend he had earlier tried to avoid. He merely trades one brand of absurdity for another.
[…] in a world as devoid of meaning […] madness is both a legitimate response and an effective challenge to the superficial sanity of the social order and historical process. Only a person out of step with society has an appropriate vantage point from which to view its failings; only a person who fails to obey the institutions that mandate certain behaviors can appreciate their rigitity and the consequences of nonconformity.